Boy Scout leader arrested for; guess what to little boys?

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    In his nature, I said, as in the guy isn't necessary sexually attracted to his fellow man rather than women. What are prison showers famous for, eh?
     
  2. conhog

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    Explain this

    How can a person who has sex with male children and female adults be classified as a homosexual?

    Of course they can not be.

    Do they commit homosexual acts when they molest male children? Of course they do. But that is not the same thing as being a homosexual. It's no different than suppose a man molested little girls and we knew NOTHING about his sexual life except for that. Would you call him a heterosexual? Of course you wouldn't. He's a pedophile, and hetero/homo has NOTHING to do with it.
     
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    Not sure what you're saying. ONE (not 2 or 3 or more) act of homo sex could be curiosity or done when someone is too drunk to know what they're doing. But I'm saying that someone who desires and/or regularly has sexual relations with someone of the same sex is a homosexual, or else of course a BI-SEXUAL. But bi-sexual includes the same damaging qualities of homosexuality, but isn't limited to just one sex as the prefix 'homo' would necessitate. But the undesirable quality is still there. Therefore, if a man is bisexual predator, then he shouldn't be allowed to be around kids either. -just as if he was a homosexual predator.

    Why does anyone have to explain this?

    I think homosexuals are largely in denial even worse than Liberals are.

    For heaven's sake! :)
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right. I used the wrong word. They are BI-sexual. And for this current discussion, the term bi-sexual includes the same undesirable qualities as the word homosexual.
     
  5. Hummingbird

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    OK! OK! Geez, let's not get your bloomers all tied up in a knot b/c you want to believe that MR. Sandusky who was sodomizing young boys for years wasn't in any way gay or queer or homo or bisexual ....

    Goodness! Why would anyone want to think there's anything GAY about that? After all, he was a 'happily married' man w/kids and a loving wife and a mortgage and a successful career.......

    Jerry Sandsuky was just a typical heterosexual American male who kinda liked young boys........ right.......:roll:
     
  6. conhog

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    Yes indeed for heaven's sakes.

    You guys are intentionally lumping in any pedophile who has same sex sex with a child into the homosexual category REGARDLESS of their sexual activity outside of children.

    It's pathetic.

    First you guys cried that letting gays in the military would lead to male on male rape as if a gay couldn't control himself around other men and would just rape away.

    That failed , and so now you're trying to convince the world that gays will become pedophiles if they are let around children.

    It's pathetic.

    Here's an idea, mind your own business. If someone is gay who cares as long as they treat me and mine right.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, your last sentence does not follow.

    If a man sexually abuses a little girl, chances are 99% that he is either heterosexual or bi-sexual.
    If a man sexually abuses a little boy, chances are 99% that his is either homosexual or bi-sexual.

    Don't get me wrong, bi-sexuality is no more 'natural' or 'right' or 'moral' or whatever word you want to use, than homosexuality is.
     
  8. conhog

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    Are you illiterate? Nothing you posted responded to what you quoted, in any way shape or form.

    NO ONE HERE IS DEFENDING SANDUSKY.

    PERIOD>
     
  9. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well first of all, mind YOUR own business. We will think or speak about homosexual activities in any way we want to. It is none of YOUR business, nor should it be. If homos would stop trying to excuse themselves (thereby showing that they know homosexuality is stupid), people would let them alone better. We just don't want homos running around trying to tell the world that what is wrong is right. That is bad for society.

    And you are wrong, I (or we?) are not "intentionally lumping in any pedophile who has same sex sex with a child into the homosexual category REGARDLESS of their sexual activity outside of children"- we are intentionally lumping bi-sexuality into the homosexual category, because the two BELONG in the same category- "Aberrant, dead wrong, and bad for the individual and society."

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yea, no kidding. Homosexuality "supporters" make even less sense than dope supporters.
    And that's goin' some.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    There you have it folks, proof positive that the conservatives want to execute Santa Claus

    According to one poster here the only logical reason people have to have children is to molest them, so all parents, teachers, coaches, and anybody who goes around children at all should be arrested and the children should be raised by robots.

    I guess that would turn out a lot of conservatives.
     
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    Because they are into children... not adults. Some just have adult relationships... for various reasons. Michael Jackson can marry all the Presleys he wants... he is still a gay pedophile. Gacey too.
     
  12. SFJEFF

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    I am a dad myself. I have taken care of other people's kids lots of times, and my child has been taken care of by other parents and relatives lots of times. This blanket condemnation of any male who enjoys kids as likely pedophile pisses me off.

    Any male is a potential child molester- certainly pedophiles go where the kids are- and both adults and kids should be aware of the danger- but does not mean that any man who volunteers his time to mentor a teen as a Big Brother or who volunteers to coach soccer should be suspected of harboring intent to molest that child. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water- the majority of men who volunteer or work with kids are not child molesters- and those kids need those mentors and coaches.
     
  13. SFJEFF

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    Not typical but yes he was a openly heterosexual American male who liked to rape young boys.

    He was a heterosexual in his adult attractions but was homosexual in his child attractions.

    What part of this are you unwilling to accept?
     
  14. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Have you considered blaming child molesters, instead of blaming those who fear for their childrens safety?
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    Actually those numbers are clearly wrong.

    Numbers vary but from one study, 7% of all pedophiles are not attracted to adults at all. They are asexual in regards to adults. Then pedophiles are divided by being attracted exclusively to one sex- usually female- or the other- or to both sexes.

    None of which necessarily relates to the gender of adults that they are attracted to.
     
  16. conhog

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    no, he's a PEDOPHILE.

    Jesus. How hard is it to grok. Sexual attraction to prepubescent children has ZERO to do with their gender.

    Or do you truly contend that Sandusky wouldn't have raped little girls given the chance?
     
  17. SFJEFF

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    You clearly only read what you want to read. I have condemned child molesters hundreds of times on these boards- i think that they are vile creatures that I applaud being arrested and convicted and jailed.

    I haven't seen anyone here posting concerned about their children's safety, other than myself.

    Everytime I see someone point a finger at a homosexual and say "he is a potential pedophile- because well he is homosexual"- I think- there is another person who wants to put my daughter more at risk.

    My daughter has about twice the risk of being sexually molested than any boy does. Some 90% of threads in PF are about predators of little boys- virtually none of them are really about men who victimize girls.

    This focus- which I contend it an intentional effort to stigmatize homosexuals by labelling them as pedophiles- makes the world a more dangerous place for the majority of child molestation victims. The more people target homosexuals- rather than look for signs of a child molester- the more danger my daughter is in.

    Let me know if you see anyone else besides me post about their childs safety- we are rare lot.
     
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    if you are a male, and you are attracted to penis... no matter what the age of the other person.... they are gay. But depending on the age of the other person, you can also be a pedophile.
     
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    Me, I posted about it.

    gay, trans-gendered, child molester, theres something wrong with all of em
     
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    Sex of the children is very relevant to pedophiles, most of the pedophiles strongly prefer children of one sex. Pedophiles don't merely choose the easiest target. I think you confuse child molesters with pedophiles, pedophiles are defined by their attraction to children, child molesters by their acts. It's not true that every pedophile is a child molester (a big part, maybe great majority of pedophiles don't abuse children) and also it's not not true that every child molester is a pedophile - some experts estimate that only about 20 % of child molesters are pedophiles. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light

    It's typical for non-pedophilic molesters, that they use the easiests target. They use children as substitute for the adult partner. They often have personality disorders, impulse control problems, hypersexuality. Sadistic offenders can choose children because they are aroused by the power over the victim. (I don't want people to think that sexual sadists typically molest children, here we are talking about the small part of them. Most of the sexual sadists are nice, gentle people, they aren't dangerous.)

    Pedophilic molesters can use easiests targets too, but they often molest children they are most attracted to. Some have problems controlling their urges, some don't care, some don't realize, that they can harm the child by their actions. Those who have problems controlling their urges can often be helped by antiandrogens drugs which lower the sexual urges. Pedophilic offenders typically doesn't use violence. Often their actions are limited to fondling, masturbation of the child or requesting child to mastubate them, sometimes they engage in oral sex with the child.
     
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    I missed your reference to your kids- sorry- that got drowned out by dreck like

    "Where are all the leftys who insist pedophiles have the right to rape boy scouts?"
     
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    If you are male and you are attracted to a vagina instead of a woman- you are really bizarre.

    Sorry- I refuse to accept that a man who rapes a 5 year old girl is a heterosexual because she has a vagina. He is a child molester- a sick mofo who molests children.

    I do not accept that man into the society of heterosexual men.

    You can if you want to be equated to him- I choose not to.
     
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    What level do you wish to communicate on?

    Is it a level where we define someone who engages in as few as ONE homosexual act "a homosexual"? Where only "heterosexual" and "non-heterosexual" exist?

    If so I cannot continue this conversation.
     
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    I posted a link to a politicalforum.com thread, check it out.
     
  25. Til the Last Drop

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    That isn't the reasoning. People are worried that if you make molestation a capital offense, then molesters will be more likely to kill their victims. However, we as a nation have followed that rationale and it doesn't work. Nothing outside of capital punishment is going to stop the increasing problem, as more and more people are born, and the current logic allows tons of offenses by each.

    Not to mention, I don't think there has ever been proof that an increase in sentencing can turn a non-murderer into a murderer.
     

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