Can being molested as a child make you gay?

It may not be politically correct to say it, but I think it's possible that being molested as a kid could make you become gay. If a little boy's first sexual experience was with an older man, and it 'felt good' at the time, then the kid might mentally associate that feeling with having sex with a man when he reaches puberty. Since there's no single known cause for homosexuality, then I don't see how this could be totally ruled out as possible.

 

SpaceCricket79, what you ask has always been known as yes. 33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality-those who deny it are dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this. See this column by Peter J. LaBarbera on Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky below:

CHICAGO—The discovery that former Penn State University defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky has been molesting boys as young as 10 years old – has shocked America. Peter J. LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH), said the scandal exposes the continuing problem of homosexual predators in society. He offers the following observations related to the PSU scandal:

Many openly homosexual (“gay&#8221 men, like CNN anchor Don Lemon, were molested as boys or experienced abnormally early sexualization. Yet many of these same men do NOT see their boyhood victimization at the hands of homosexual male predators as causing their homosexuality. (This is due partly to the success of the modern “gay” movement that falsely ascribes “gayness” to a person’s (innate) identity, and emphasizes the ambiguous notion of “sexual orientation” as opposed to behavior that is sinful, destructive and changeable.) Thus, how many boy victims of homosexual predator Sandusky will end up believing that being homosexual (“gay&#8221 is “who they are”? How many will struggle with sexual identity issues? And how many will be told by LGBT advocates and liberal-minded people just to “accept being gay” as “who they are” because they were “born that way”?

Because the media and academia have largely become apologists for the modern homosexualist movement, they downplay or ignore obvious causative factors in the formation of “gay” identity – including pederastic molestation. CNN’s Lemon is a case in point: he is now an “out gay” celebrity, yet few question the absurdity of him not associating the molestation of his youth with his later embrace of homosexuality as a positive identity. There IS a long history connecting homosexuality to pederasty, and a disproportionate link between homosexuality and pedophilia: why else would so many child molestation victims be boys when only 1-3 percent of the population is homosexual? Since cases of women molesting boys remain rare, if homosexuality were not such a strong factor, nearly all of pedophile victims should be girls, which is far from the case. Sandusky is married but obviously has a homosexuality (perversion) problem. Yet pro-“gay” liberals will deny any linkage between homosexuality and Sandusky’s rape/seduction of boys. In fact, after news of the Penn State scandal came to light, “gay” activists stressed that Sandusky is married and that most pedophile cases involve “straight, married men.” However, behavior is what matters – not a person’s marital status or self-described “sexual orientation.” Sandusky was married but was he really “straight” (sexually or morally)? Some inner demons or life traumas – probably in his own youth – caused him to lust for boys, wrecking untold misery in the lives of his victims. Behavior is the issue, and this was a case of a serial homosexual predator raping boys.

 

A lot can be said and debated. Even so, there is no proof that all males molested become gay. And likely much less proof to say that all men who are homosexual were molested as children.

Let's not promote 'myths'.

 

Of course not all males who are homolested become homo and not all homosexuals were homolestation victims. However, if a boy is a victim of homosexual sex abuse such as by a gay priest, it's more likely he'll be gay behaviorally speaking in adulthood vs. if he wasn't. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality-those who deny it are dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this.

Homosexual behaviors are often result of something bad in life such as possibly bad genes though they've not conclusively proven it's inborn & or sex abuse especially homosexual rape. I have never heard straight people blame sex abuse for a reason a man has sex with women but I sometimes hear homos & lesbians especially gaysreport childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape. There has been unproven speculation about soy during pregnancy, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and women smoking marijuana during pregnancy & fetus turning out gay/lesbian-American Indians have higher rates of the last 2. But what is known is that if a boy is repeatedly homosexually raped in his youth, the likelihood is more that he'll do homosexual behaviors in adulthood because the sex abuse can damage mind and cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn't. To deny it is dishonest. It's like if a kid lives in a high crime neighborhood & sees muggings, the likelihood is more that he'll be a mugger in his adulthood because of what he learned in his youth. It remains again to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think in their adulthood that they're homosexual. No, not all boys who are homosexually raped in youth become homo in adulthood & yes, there are many gays who weren't homosexually raped in their youths. But homosexual rapes in youth incr. risk of a boy turning out homosexual.

We should try to find a cure for gay/lesbian sexual behaviors. If it can be predicted an unborn baby will be gay/lesbian or transexual, then I'm pro-abortion-if you're pro-choice then don't complain about my pro-abortion view. Have already repeated that it should be a crime to do sex changes-transexuals are worse than gays. But if they find a cure such as shot, pill or surgery which can cure homosexuality/lesbianism there will be many gays and lesbians who'd take the cure. It's hard to know how many gays and lesbians would in their minds rather be straight. Michael E. Glatze who was editor of Young Gay America and who was once a gay rights activist says his earlier views of homosexuality was wrong and since 2007, Michael E. Glatze says he is now straight (yes, only he knows) and that it's best to find a cure for homosexuality because homosexual & lesbian activities are bad. Yes, Michael E. Glatze said this after becoming a Christian but there's nothing wrong with using Judeo-Christian views to be against homosexuality just as there's nothing wrong with using Judeo-Christian views to be against stealing.

 

There is something to be said for the overall topic. But I don't see how a subject requiring a much better academic foundation than that which you have provided, could be properly covered here.

I suspect there will be several pages of garbage that will only serve to distort and confuse a very important topic.

Bye.

 

I believe being molested as a child can also turn you into a rightwing homophobe.


Anybody prove me wrong?

 

It might, but I don't think any one given reason can be explained for why someone is sexually attracted to one person or another. Why are folks attracted to animals? Is it because they were raised on a farm? Why are folks attracted to dead bodies? Is it because they were grave diggers? All of these scenarios don't really explain why someone becomes attracted to various things.

However, where I would think most of the study should go to is within the human brain. I think most of this comes from things in ones life or how someone is built (Metaphorically speaking). Again, this will take several lifetimes to probably come up with anything remotely close to figuring out a definitive answer. A lot of variations come into play, so I don't think science will ever prove, with a definitive reason, why folks are attracted to things they way that they are. It's just how they are.

 

Are you getting different tendencies?
How many causes are there for heterosexuality?

 

The vast majority of gay people were never abused as a child, so if it's a cause of homosexual behavior in adulthood, it's certainly not the only one. I have heard of being abused as a child leading the child to become a child-abuser himself when he grows up, although I've never heard of it linked to having an attraction to other adult men. In other words, being abused as a child can be a cause of pedophilia, but not necessarily a cause for same-sex attraction to other men. I can't say it's impossible, but nothing I've read on the subject indicates otherwise, so it's purely speculative.

I do think it's possible that abuse can totally screw you up in unpredictable ways, however. It might be possible, for example, that a girl or woman who was abused by men might grow to fear them and take on lesbian relationships. I would not necessarily call that woman a lesbian if it's prompted only by fear of abuse. To me, being "gay" or "lesbian" is marked only by a natural attraction to the same sex, not abuse. Such a person who has been abused can and should get treatment for their abuse, and when the fears are dealt with, a normal pattern of heterosexual behavior would return. So there is a marked difference between being "homosexual" vs simply exhibiting "homosexual behavior", where they can potentially be a great many more causes for homosexual behavior among non-homosexuals.

So, long story short, I think it's possible that there are many causes for "homosexual behavior", but I don't think it's nearly that simple for those who are "gay" or "homosexual".

 

You're starting from false assumptions, among them:

1) That being gay is a product of being conditioned to enjoy same-sex behavior

2) That being gay is defined by a desire to engage in same-sex behavior.

For starters, being gay = being primarily attracted to traits associated primarily with persons of one's own sex. It is not an attraction to sexual behavior or sexual organs. The attraction isn't necessarily even associated with sexual behavior in the beginning; I knew I was attracted strongly to other males (or rather, traits associated with maleness) long before I developed any interest in sexual behavior or sexual arousal as a response to that attraction. And no, that wasn't a product of sexual molestation in my case.

Feelings of attraction directed toward gender-based traits isn't the only driver of homosexual behavior. What you're describing sounds more like a compulsion for sexual behavior (and probably with very specific parameters), learned as a product of abuse - and that isn't 'gay', despite being 'homosexual'. I don't regard 'Gay' and 'homosexual' as completely synonymous 100% of the time. That some people do just confuses the issue and makes it difficult to discuss without resorting to long-winded explanations of what one means. Such as this post.

To become attracted to the same-sex as a product of experiencing sexual behavior is the exact opposite of most gay men's experience; we become interested in sexual behavior with the same-sex as a product of being attracted to maleness (in the case of gay men).

 

The people who voted no are usually gay, lesbian who are dishonest, delusional or both. & JeffLV, some1 who has sex with young boys is a homosexual-Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky is a homosexual. JeffLV, it's best for gays/lesbians to be celibate until a cure is found because it's about ending gay/lesbian behaviors regardless of orientation change. Homosexual behaviors are often result of something bad in life such as possibly bad genes though they've not conclusively proven it's inborn & or sex abuse especially homosexual rape. I have never heard straight people blame sex abuse for a reason a man has sex with women but I sometimes hear homos & lesbians especially gays report childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape. There has been unproven speculation about soy during pregnancy, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and women smoking marijuana during pregnancy & fetus turning out gay/lesbian-American Indians have higher rates of the last 2.

If a boy is repeatedly homosexually raped in his youth, the likelihood is more that he'll do homosexual behaviors in adulthood because the sex abuse can damage mind and cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn't. To deny it is dishonest. It's like if a kid lives in a high crime neighborhood & sees muggings, the likelihood is more that he'll be a mugger in his adulthood because of what he learned in his youth. It remains again to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think in their adulthood that they're homosexual. No, not all boys who are homosexually raped in youth become homo in adulthood & yes, there are many gays who weren't homosexually raped in their youths. But homosexual rapes in youth incr. risk of a boy turning out homosexual.

 

And scientifically, that means what?? At best, it's just a poll put up for entertainment here in this forum.

Also, science says you're generally wrong.

Please, stop trying to misinform others.

 

Interesting question- in many ways.

First of all- the vast majority of child molestation victims are girls. something like 75% are girls.

Not only that but far, far too many women report that they were molested as children. I know of three of them myself.

So why are you asking only about boys who are molested?

We know that not all boys who are molested end up as gay as adults. We also know that not all gay men were molested as children.

But I am really curious- isn't the far, far more pressing question-

WHY ARE SO MANY CHILDREN MOLESTED- AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO PREVENT IT?

 

And here we go.

The vast majority of child sex abuse victims are girls.

And there is never a thread about them. Why is that?

Pedophiles are pedophiles. Sandusky was a pedophile who prefered boys while identifying himself as a heterosexual.

What is dangerous about what Fun is saying is that equating 'Homosexual=Pedophile" is that means people suspect homosexuals and assume that a heterosexual like Sandusky is not a pedophile- because 'he isn't gay'.

Do you want to protect children- or attack homosexuals?

If you want to protect children- then why don't you want to protect girls- and boys?

 

You nailed it.

People who take that issue off on some 'homophobic' tangent, only serve to detract from a very serious problem.

 

But Sandusky had sex with his wife.

You can call pedophiles homosexuals if you want to- and that means that instead of calling pedophiles who rape little girls pedophiles you must then call them heterosexuals.

Again- this is why this topic irritates the hell out of me.

Thread after thread about Gay.....boys molested.

NOT ONE THREAD ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS.

After awhile I can come to only one of two conclusions:

a) The people who start these threads just don't care whether girls are abused or
b) The people who start these threads are just trying to stigmatize homosexuals by equating homosexual to pedophile.

If anyone else has any possible explanation of how we have thread after thread talking about men abusing boys- but not one talking about men abusing girls- I would like to hear it.

 

Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's a homosexual whether or not he had sex with his wife-we don't know if he and wife had sex life in years he was homolesting as many married couples don't do it.

Gay/lesbian activities whether it’s willing or forced are bad & the punishment for statutory rape must be more when it’s homosexual/lesbian. That means if a man has sex with an underage girl the punishment = if a woman has sex with an underage boy. But if the statutory rape is gay such as in Harvey B. Milk’s case, then punishment must be more because sex abuse is worse when it’s gay/lesbian in nature as that often causes homosexuality/lesbianism & transexuality (worse than gays)-to deny this is dishonest, delusional or both.It's right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality and transexuality (which is worse) just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against cocaina smoking. It's undebatable truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. Many gays were victims of homosexual rapes when they were boys such as by gay priests. There could be other causes which haven't been conclusively proven such as genes, but if that's true then the gay gene would be the same thing as a cancer or heart attack gene. We should work to find a cure for the gay gene if indeed this is true.

 

I understand that is your opinion.

You are wrong.

Meanwhile

NOT ONE THREAD ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS.

After awhile I can come to only one of two conclusions:

a) The people who start these threads just don't care whether girls are abused or
b) The people who start these threads are just trying to stigmatize homosexuals by equating homosexual to pedophile.

If anyone else has any possible explanation of how we have thread after thread talking about men abusing boys- but not one talking about men abusing girls- I would like to hear it.

 

That is my fact & me right.

Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's a homosexual whether or not he had sex with his wife-we don't know if he and wife had sex life in years he was homolesting as many married couples don't do it.

But if the statutory rape is gay such as in Harvey B. Milk’s case, then punishment must be more because sex abuse is worse when it’s gay/lesbian in nature as that often causes homosexuality/lesbianism & transexuality (worse than gays)-to deny this is dishonest, delusional or both. It's undebatable truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. Many gays were victims of homosexual rapes when they were boys such as by gay priests. There could be other causes which haven't been conclusively proven such as genes, but if that's true then the gay gene would be the same thing as a cancer or heart attack gene. We should work to find a cure for the gay gene if indeed this is true.

 

I understand that is your opinion.

You are wrong. Jerry Sandusky identified himself to the world as heterosexual- and he was also a pedophile who molested boys.


Meanwhile

NOT ONE THREAD ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS.

After awhile I can come to only one of two conclusions:

a) The people who start these threads just don't care whether girls are abused or
b) The people who start these threads are just trying to stigmatize homosexuals by equating homosexual to pedophile.
If anyone else has any possible explanation of how we have thread after thread talking about men abusing boys- but not one talking about men abusing girls- I would like to hear it.

My point just keeps being reinforced over and over.

 

Lying about people committing crimes is wrong

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lying about someone committing a crime is wrong

 

Well said. People do misunderstand what it means to be gay. While I do imagine it's possible that abuse and other "unnatural" triggers can prompt sexual compulsions, including homosexual compulsions, or that abuse by one gender could lead you to seek the other for some sense of security, that's not what I think it means to be gay either. It's possible that some of those people truly are gay... that perhaps the abuse or other unnatural event simply presented them with the possibility of exploring homosexual attractions that they were otherwise repressing, but perhaps not in many/most of the case. Like you, I was never abused, nor were any of my gay friends (save for one, who was abused by a man and a woman). It was just an attraction I began to feel around 12, a yearning, a fluttering heart and sweaty palms I'd get when I looked at an attractive boy, a feeling I really couldn't explain or understand for a long time until I realized what it was and that it wasn't going away (as much as I wanted it to go away). There was no "learning" to be attracted to the same sex because of enjoyment of orgasm or anything of the nature, I hadn't even thought of sex until many years later.

 

Although I've seen the molestation issue discussed in research, the correlation is not clear enough to be sure of how it factors in.

A closer connection seems to be shown between the parental relationships and homosexuality. Very often a homosexual male will have grown up without a father figure, or with a difficult, strained or distant relationship with his father. On the other hand, he will very often have grown up with a very close relationship with his mother, sister or other female figures - much closer than his relationship with his male family members.

Naturally, this isn't true of every case - in psychology nothing ever is. Still this seems to be true in a very strong majority of cases.

 

Probably some questions involved in that research as well. For example:

- Did the strained relationship with the father-figure cause the child to be homosexual, or did the homosexuality of the child cause the strained relationship? One might expect that a homosexual child would be avoidant of their father, fearing rejection, or that a father is critical of their child that they fear is showing homosexual tendencies. Conversely, one might expect the child to bond more closely with their mother, under the perception that they will be more accepting.

- Did the stronger relationships with mother and strained relationship with father actually MAKE the child homosexual, or did the fact that the child's primary support was female, and the fact that females tend to be more accepting of homosexuality, mean the child was more willing to explore homosexual inclinations that already existed?

- In a related question, how was "gay" or "homosexual" defined in the research? Was the child considered "gay" if they ever had a same-sex relationship, or was it established through a pattern of behavior over a longitudinal study? Studies on the children raised in households headed by same-sex parents show that the children tend to be more willing to consider or explore same-sex relationships given the reduced stigma, yet they tend to end up in the long run homosexual/heterosexual relationships at the same rate as their counterparts who are raised in households headed by opposite-sex parents. This does not indicate that the situation caused the child to be homosexual, just that they were more willing to consider while ultimately settling down at the same rate as anyone else.

This one's kinda obvious, but was a comparison made with non-homosexual children to see if a strained relationship with their father was significantly different?

 

I am not certain that that any current research shows this. This was a big theory back in the 1960's as I recall.

But of my 3 close male homosexual friends- all of them had fathers in their lives and were at least as close- if not closer with their fathers than with their mothers.

Everyone of them told me that they knew they were homosexual before they knew what homosexual meant- i.e. even as kids they were attracted to boys like hetero boys are attracted to girls.

I think sexual preference of their kids is pretty obvious even when young to parents if they pay attention.