Can being molested as a child make you gay?

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Can being molested make you gay?

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  1. Taxpayer

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    These are not facts, they are opinions (or fantasies). I disagree with your opinions.



     
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    So you don't know where the number comes from?


     
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    Well that is the truth and it's best to not trust gay/lesbian groups. Only biased people deny link between childhood sex abuse and gayism/lesbianism. Schoolkids must tell their gay schoolteachers that they are not going to listen to their pro-gay/lesbian view. Heros for gay groups are cowards such as Harvey B. Milk. There's nothing you can say which changes the truth that I'm right and what I say are truth not opinions. It's fact that gay/lesbian behaviors and sex change mutilations are bad for health just as drug junkyism is. Only some1 who is delusional would call it fantasy-guess you'll call it fantasies when people say drugs are bad for health because you differ with the fact (or what you call opinion) that drugs are bad for health. So your view is wrong and my facts are right. Rest is copy/paste because again, it's rerun.

    Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality-those who deny it are dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this. Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky and Harvey B. Milk homolested young boys because they liked doing it for pleasure and are homolesters. See this column by Peter J. LaBarbera on Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky below:

    CHICAGO—The discovery that former Penn State University defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky has been molesting boys as young as 10 years old – has shocked America. Peter J. LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH), said the scandal exposes the continuing problem of homosexual predators in society. He offers the following observations related to the PSU scandal:

    Many openly homosexual (“gay”) men, like CNN anchor Don Lemon, were molested as boys or experienced abnormally early sexualization. Yet many of these same men do NOT see their boyhood victimization at the hands of homosexual male predators as causing their homosexuality. (This is due partly to the success of the modern “gay” movement that falsely ascribes “gayness” to a person’s (innate) identity, and emphasizes the ambiguous notion of “sexual orientation” as opposed to behavior that is sinful, destructive and changeable.) Thus, how many boy victims of homosexual predator Sandusky will end up believing that being homosexual (“gay”) is “who they are”? How many will struggle with sexual identity issues? And how many will be told by LGBT advocates and liberal-minded people just to “accept being gay” as “who they are” because they were “born that way”?

    Because the media and academia have largely become apologists for the modern homosexualist movement, they downplay or ignore obvious causative factors in the formation of “gay” identity – including pederastic molestation. CNN’s Lemon is a case in point: he is now an “out gay” celebrity, yet few question the absurdity of him not associating the molestation of his youth with his later embrace of homosexuality as a positive identity. There IS a long history connecting homosexuality to pederasty, and a disproportionate link between homosexuality and pedophilia: why else would so many child molestation victims be boys when only 1-3 percent of the population is homosexual? Since cases of women molesting boys remain rare, if homosexuality were not such a strong factor, nearly all of pedophile victims should be girls, which is far from the case. Sandusky is married but obviously has a homosexuality (perversion) problem. Yet pro-“gay” liberals will deny any linkage between homosexuality and Sandusky’s rape/seduction of boys. In fact, after news of the Penn State scandal came to light, “gay” activists stressed that Sandusky is married and that most pedophile cases involve “straight, married men.” However, behavior is what matters – not a person’s marital status or self-described “sexual orientation.” Sandusky was married but was he really “straight” (sexually or morally)? Some inner demons or life traumas – probably in his own youth – caused him to lust for boys, wrecking untold misery in the lives of his victims. Behavior is the issue, and this was a case of a serial homosexual predator raping boys.
     
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    opin·ion noun \ə-ˈpin-yən\
    Definition of OPINION

    1 : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
    2 : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge



     
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    Interesting.will give it some thought ,but as far as Bisexuality is concerned ,I would argue , as all human sexuality is a transient thing ,with no-one being purely anything ,that if we say ,10% homosexual exclusive ,and say correspondingly 10% hetero-sexual then the rest of us the silent ,Bisexual Population encompasses a gradient and all categories of science fall on Gradients ,80% of the Population is some way bisexual.

    Now as far as Gay and lesbian ,they have nothing to do with Human Sexuality and everything to do with Radical middle class life style Choice,Political Agenda in other words.

    As far as the "Gay Political community " they are the most prejudice bunch of radical ratbags that it has been my displeasure to meet.

    Anti-Hetero-Sexual ,and talking out of their arses when it comes to Anything but what they want ,or how hurt they feel, and always ANTI-SCIENCE.

    No, sorry Gay and Lesbian Radicals ,nothing progressive or Democratic as far as the LGBTI Political movement ,for who knows what ,as sure as anything they do not.

    Watch this space ,bet I get called 'Homophobe" by the Gay Community of Hetero-phobes and Bi-phobes ,the lesbian 's rule the roost as at least they have balls.
     
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    Not to mention the Biggest Gay Organisation on the Planet ,not the LGBTI ,but the Roman Catholic Clergy!
     
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    The posters denying the link between childhood sex abuse and adult gay/lesbian behaviors including here are usually gay:toilet: :fart:, lesbian or a sympathizer. But honestly again, it's my view that you're denying what you know is true because any behavior including sexual behavior can be learned by what 1 sees in youth. Sex abuse in youth can cause people to behave in ways they wouldn't have. It's not controversial to talk of nightmares, suicides, bedwetting often a result of sex abuse in youth esp. sex abuse where gays homolest young boys. Yet when 1 talks of a person doing gay/lesbian behaviors in adulthood because this is sexual behavior they learned by being repeatedly homolested when they were boys, then the gays with politically safe psychologists complain about how their's no link, that it's correlation not causation but this is rubbish. The politically correct psychologists who deny this know it's possible for a boy to turn out gay as a result of childhood sex abuse, yet they still deny what they know is true. The G.A.G.A. gays and lesbians who was copied and pasted are honest when they talk of how childhood sex abuse messed up their minds and their belief that they do gay/lesbian behaviors because of childhood sex abuse. Most transexuals were sexually abused in childhood which messed up their minds. Abolish sex change maimings. Childhood sex abuse does cause adult gay/lesbian behaviors for some and it's undebatable truth.
     
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    Where does gay behavior originate if not as a result of environmental factors - like sexual abuse as a CHILD molestation (underage of consent) ?
    The American Psychological Association (APA) - one of the most liberal and "gay friendly" associations won't even promote the idea the honosexuality are God - given. They are not going to list it in the DSM as a dysfunction to be treated when in adulthood, but they 've got a few clues about homosexual origins.

    It's a TOXIC cocktail of factors: 1 .child sexual abuse (CSA) 2. lack of male boyhood friends 3. lack of "roughhousing" and sporting activity 4. IMPORTANT: lack of loving father or father figure in the household.

    These above factors are among of the reasons so minorities have such a ***disproportionate number of homosexual boys /adults in their populations. Sadly, these racial and ethnic groups ALSO have disproportionate single mother families and the children are particularly defenseless from the repetitive pathology of child sexual abuse prevalent in these groups.
    *** Sonya Grant Arreloa - "Childhood Sexual Abuse (CSA) and it's Sequelae among Latino Gay and Bisexual Men" Quote: "Compared to non-Latino...Latino Gay / Bisexual men...are twice as likely to have a history of CSA and it is MUCH more SEVERE."


    1. God has not revealed the gene that makes you heterorsexual,bisexual, transsexual, gay or lesbian or whatever - SO where does the behavior start and why ? Why is it tha tmany younger children in particular can change from the deviancy of homosexuality to normal sexual orientation ? THe parents must be left with the option, along with the child's consent, to see a psychologist and explore the origins of their "feelings" to see if they can be modified to normalcy or if they will be able to accept their future as homosexual.

    2. FACT: Since, Race and sexual appendages are immutable characteristics - Lesbian, Gay, bisexuality are NOT physically immutable inherited and visible characteristics. They are changeable - how many supposed gays have changed ? A great many is the truth.

    ***NOT even the "gay friendy" APA goes that far, because they KNOW and have witnessed the truth. Through therapy or on "motivated" minors and adults - they can facilitate change from one sexual orientation to another -

    Lesson for the day:

    Dr. Nicholas Cummings, former PRESIDENT of the (APA) American Psychological Association in 1980, and one of the early proponents of de-listing homosexuality in 1973's DSM (and still is) works in San Francisco in his clinic.

    Dr. Cummings wrote an a recent USA Today column that:
    *** "CONTRARY to what OPPONENTS of gay therapy conversion claimed - sexual orientation CAN be CHANGED."

    He and his team have facilitated 100's of ex-gays to normal lives. Has done so for many years. Google it.


    He further wrote "...contending that all same-sex attraction is IMMUTABLE is a distortion of reality."

    Is there any reason to doubt that the homosexual who is motivated cannot be helped to become one of the 97% heterosexual ?

    Not according to Dr. Cummings, there isn't.
     
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    Stop lying. We're all sick of it.

    Let's see, I'm a homosexual, but:

    1. I was not abused as a child.

    2. I have always had lots of male friends.

    3. I have been athletic all my life, and still play competitive hockey at 46 years old

    4. My dad is great, and has always been there for me. He and my mom are still married.

    So- why am I gay? According to you, I should be straight.

    BTW- I also had two brothers, both heterosexual.
     
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    Gay/lesbian behaviors and transexuality (sex change mutilations) are bad for health just as smoking is. They must abolish sex changes. If a gay/lesbian isn't pushing their views on others, then I don't care. But problem is that gays push their views on people such as Harvey B. Milk and Methew Wayne Shepard on others. If a gay is going to push views of coward Harvey B. Milk on schoolkids, then schoolkids must tell the gay teacher that their view is wrong. Heros for gays are cowards such as homosexual statutory rapist Harvey B. Milk. Since you live in San Francisco, you know how gays push views of homosexual statutory rapist coward Harvey B. Milk on others. Gay schoolteachers are a bad idea and schoolkids need to tell gay schoolteachers that they aren't going to listen to them. Rest is copy/paste, as this topic doesn't raise much which is new.

    33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality-those who deny it are dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this. Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky and Harvey B. Milk homolested young boys because they liked doing it for pleasure and are homolesters. See this column by Peter J. LaBarbera on Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky below:

    CHICAGO—The discovery that former Penn State University defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky has been molesting boys as young as 10 years old – has shocked America. Peter J. LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH), said the scandal exposes the continuing problem of homosexual predators in society. He offers the following observations related to the PSU scandal:

    Many openly homosexual (“gay”) men, like CNN anchor Don Lemon, were molested as boys or experienced abnormally early sexualization. Yet many of these same men do NOT see their boyhood victimization at the hands of homosexual male predators as causing their homosexuality. (This is due partly to the success of the modern “gay” movement that falsely ascribes “gayness” to a person’s (innate) identity, and emphasizes the ambiguous notion of “sexual orientation” as opposed to behavior that is sinful, destructive and changeable.) Thus, how many boy victims of homosexual predator Sandusky will end up believing that being homosexual (“gay”) is “who they are”? How many will struggle with sexual identity issues? And how many will be told by LGBT advocates and liberal-minded people just to “accept being gay” as “who they are” because they were “born that way”?

    Because the media and academia have largely become apologists for the modern homosexualist movement, they downplay or ignore obvious causative factors in the formation of “gay” identity – including pederastic molestation. CNN’s Lemon is a case in point: he is now an “out gay” celebrity, yet few question the absurdity of him not associating the molestation of his youth with his later embrace of homosexuality as a positive identity. There IS a long history connecting homosexuality to pederasty, and a disproportionate link between homosexuality and pedophilia: why else would so many child molestation victims be boys when only 1-3 percent of the population is homosexual? Since cases of women molesting boys remain rare, if homosexuality were not such a strong factor, nearly all of pedophile victims should be girls, which is far from the case. Sandusky is married but obviously has a homosexuality (perversion) problem. Yet pro-“gay” liberals will deny any linkage between homosexuality and Sandusky’s rape/seduction of boys. In fact, after news of the Penn State scandal came to light, “gay” activists stressed that Sandusky is married and that most pedophile cases involve “straight, married men.” However, behavior is what matters – not a person’s marital status or self-described “sexual orientation.” Sandusky was married but was he really “straight” (sexually or morally)? Some inner demons or life traumas – probably in his own youth – caused him to lust for boys, wrecking untold misery in the lives of his victims. Behavior is the issue, and this was a case of a serial homosexual predator raping boys.
     
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    Yes, indeed!!

    Ditto!!

    Ditto!!

    I've been in the military all of my adult life (served in several wars); and all the male-macho stuff (guns, bullets, bombs, machines) didn't make me straight. :)

    Ditto!!

    Exactly the same here. (Maybe my parents 'forgot' to give me the special-heterosexual-briefing that all the straight members of my family must have had. ;) LOL!!! :)

    I knew that I wasn't 'supposed' to be "homosexual" (based upon every teaching and life experience)... but I was gay anyway; go figure.
     
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    I know. It amazes me that people still believe that reparative therapy garbage.
     
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    Yes, repair therapy to treat gayism, lesbianism often fails as repair therapy does for drug junkyism-this should be there for those who want this. Yes, proof burden is on repair therapists, but if you aren’t going to have repair therapy for gayism, then you may as well not have repair therapy for drug junkyism or drunkardism, because it often fails. Repair therapy for gays and lesbians who want to be straight must be available just as repair therapy must be available for a drug junky who wants to become clean. Sex changes should be abolished. I’m against sex changes for the same reason as I oppose trying to make a White person Black or viceversa because they think they were born of another race. Sex changes are a sad waste of science. Incidentally, must repeat that I am not religious so don’t give me a lecture on Christianity, Islam or so on. My reasons for being against gayism, lesbianism and transsexuality is unrelated to any faith.

    And minors can not be forced into repair therapy-unless there is a court order, people can not be forced into any medical or psychologial treatment. There are court orders where a convicted drunk driver is reqd. to have counseling. If the drunk driver does not sincerely want to change, then forced counseling is not going to help them. Mainstream psychology/medicine is not to be trusted on gay/lesbian topic and too many people accept what is said w/o challenging or having doubts. You can pay experts to say things which agree with gay/lesbian agenda and that is has happened with psychology/medicine since 1973. Can sexual orientation for some gays and lesbians change-in 2001 Dr. Spitzer said that change was possible for highly motivated individuals and that it happened after long journey and he got condemned by gay/lesbian groups. In 2007, he said that while gays and lesbians should not be forced into therapy, he believed it was the hubris of psychologists to deny this for those who want it. In 2012, Dr. RL Spitzer retracted, apologized to gay/lesbian groups, saying therapy doesn’t work and condemned it. What I must wonder is did Dr. Spitzer in 2012 say what he believed, or did he say it to pacify gay/lesbian groups ? People have a right to doubt Dr. Spitzer’s sincerity.
     
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    Who's lying ? Ms. Arreloa or Dr. Cummings ?

    Take up your baseless and emotional "lying" accusations and write to them about how tired you are of them lying to you - I'm just quoting the former president of the American Psychological Association (APA)

    Lesson for the day:

    Dr. Nicholas Cummings, former PRESIDENT of the (APA) American Psychological Association in 1980, and one of the early proponents of de-listing homosexuality in 1973's DSM (and still is) works in San Francisco in his clinic.

    Dr. Cummings is ALSO a former Chief Psychologist for Kaiser- Permanente of California for 20 years and he was based in San Fran.

    He stated that there are many causes for homsexuality and they are complex, but homosexuals can be converted if they are properly motivated.

    This past July, in New Jersey, he argued AGAINST an SPLC lawsuit that stated: "The essential premise of conversion therapy — that it will ‘convert’ a gay person to a straight person — has no basis in scientific fact.’”

    “But psychologist Nicholas Cummings, a past president of the American Psychological Association and lifelong champion of homosexual rights, said the real question people should be asking is not, ‘Does it work?’ but, rather, ‘Which individuals will most likely benefit from this therapy and which won’t?’

    In an affidavit in support of JONAH’s motion before the New Jersey Superior Court to dismiss the SPLC lawsuit, Cummings observed that ‘"... it is ‘difficult therapy,’ and change is ‘not easily accomplished,’ but it can be done. In fact, he stated, the rate of success is high ‘if patients are highly motivated and clinically diagnosed as having a high probability of success’ before the therapy begins.”

    He and his team have facilitated 100's of ex-gays to normal lives. Has done so for many years.

    There are few that fit that descriptions as adults, but children, with their parents love and guidance, especailly after a CSA traumatic homosexual pedophile molestation, may find themselves "confused" and can have their mental health restored and guided to a healthy understanding of theirtrue orientation and how to heal from the CSA.

    Google it.
     
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    No, this is not how this works. You make the claim, you provide the citation unless what we're talking about is something like the validation of an entire established scientific discipline. I'm not going to google it, you are going to provide a damn citation.
     
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    Take a class and learn the facts.
    To begin with, when young adults start their collegiate level Psychology education their psychology textbooks tell them that the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality from its list of diagnostic disorders in 1973. Students are given information about homosexuality from a gay activist point of view. They are told efforts to change homosexuality have failed and that homosexuality is probably the result of biological factors.

    On both counts the APA textbooks are wrong :Change therapy has succeeded and homosexuality is a NOT result of biological factors.

    The APA is not a medical research entity like the NIH or CDC. APA deals in diagnosing observed behavior and the science of the mind. In other words, APA has no physiological research expertise to back up their textbook "claims" and devine biological origins of ANYTHING. They constantly overstep their boundaries and knowledge for politics.

    FACT: There is not one consensus thread of medical evidence to support that irrational nonsense. Therefore, we are left with environmental factors as the main reason for homosexuality, and that's supported by many psychological research that correlates various events or conditions that correlate specifically to homosexual adult behavior.

    If there were a "gay gene", changes inorientation could not be achieved - which they ARE - just as a person can not change their RACE or physical gender traits through therapy.

    RACE and SEX are IMMUTABLE characteristics. Sexual orientation is NOT and the motivated CAN and DO change all the time. That leaves CSA as one possible contributing factor to homosexual behavior as adults.

    In 2004 Robert Spitzer, M.D., one of the APA psychiatrists who originally worked to have homosexuality removed from the DSM in 1973, has discovered that individuals with same-sex attractions can change. His 16-month study of 247 individuals who had responded successfully to reorientation therapy was published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 32, No. 5, October, 2003, pages 403-417. [5]

    Dr. Spitzer found that, contrary to most pasychology and psychiatric opinion, individuals who have undergone professional reorientation therapy via his techniques can experience positive changes from homosexual to heterosexual orientation.

    It's true - Of those he studied, most indicated that they still struggled with homosexual attractions to some degree, but 11% of the males and 37% of the females indicated a complete change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation.

    Such change is clearly very difficult to achieve--but this very recent study, published by a prominent researcher in a prestigious publication, indicates that change does occur.

    GOOGLE it.
     
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    I used to be neutral on homosexuality but in 2005 changed my view on this. I don’t care if the American Medical Association says that homosexual/lesbian activities isn’t a disease-still go ahead & cure it. It’s a fact that 33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Why people take part in gay/lesbian activities is the same as why people get heart disease. Some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because maybe it’s because of biological defect such as hormones or if it’s genes a birth defect. Then some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because of childhood sex abuse reaction. It doesn’t take an expert to know that sex abuse esp. homosexual rape in youth can mess up the mind. There are people who take part in gay activities in adulthood due to reaction from homosexual rapes in youth. I have never heard a straight man blame sex abuse or any other bad thing for the reason he has sex with women or is married to a woman with children. Yet I’ve heard some gays & lesbians say that they think sex abuse in youth is a reason why they take part in gay/lesbian activities & it’s hard to know how sex abuse impacted mind. You can rerun again & again that homosexuality isn’t a disease, but again, I say go ahead & cure it even if the AMA says otherwise. Unsure what else we can say because we’ll mainly repeat what we’ve said so many times already on this topic.
     
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    The Opposition can't handle the truth - "gay" is not genetic - and can be influenced by CSA or other environmental factors. Many highly accredited APA members have proven that FACT - and changed the motivated adult or confused child back to "normalcy" - but their studies are hidden from the public - I really have to seach for them in public resources.
    But I found a ton more in the AJPM and CDC that indicate that CSA leads to many problems - e.g if a poor abused kid does not become gay as a result they often struggle with the abuse - become confused about their sexuality when there was NO such confusion before. Sometiimes they are their own worst enemies and never report it and are forever confused -
    They'll indulge in other high risk behavior like over use of alcohol and drugs -or even repeating and re-living the abuse they suffered by doing it to other kids.
    It's a sickness in society and it's getting out of control in minority single parent families - almost an epidemic there.
     
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    Maybe you will realize it later, but those who have studied these things even a little... realize that you really don't know what you're talking about (even from the few words above).
     
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    Well, you have not actually proven that.

    Even so, here is some interesting data for folks to consider.
     
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    Dr. E. Warren Throckmorton is an apologist for gay :toilet: /lesbian sexual conduct, so his view his useless. The posters denying the link between childhood sex abuse and adult gay/lesbian behaviors including here are usually gay, lesbian or a sympathizer. But honestly again, it's my view that you're denying what you know is true because any behavior including sexual behavior can be learned by what 1 sees in youth. Sex abuse in youth can cause people to behave in ways they wouldn't have. It's not controversial to talk of nightmares, suicides, bedwetting often a result of sex abuse in youth esp. sex abuse where gays homolest young boys. Yet when 1 talks of a person doing gay/lesbian behaviors in adulthood because this is sexual behavior they learned by being repeatedly homolested when they were boys, then the gays with politically safe psychologists complain about how their's no link, that it's correlation not causation but this is rubbish. The politically correct psychologists who deny this know it's possible for a boy to turn out gay as a result of childhood sex abuse, yet they still deny what they know is true. Most transexuals were sexually abused in childhood which messed up their minds. Abolish sex change maimings. Childhood sex abuse does cause adult gay/lesbian behaviors for some and it's undebatable truth.
     
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    Ignoring FACTS won't get you far.
    FACT: Gays can become GAY because of (partially) homosexual pedophile contact and Gays can become hetero again with the proper professional help - happens all the time according to the "pros".

    >>>>It's really that simple - search the authors Dr. Arreloa, Dr. Cummings and Dr. Robert Spitzer - his 2004 study is beautifully done - that's all you need. <<<<<

    Their names, articles and editorials and studies are PROMINENT and have many back-up studies resources. Is that darn TRUTH getting in the way ...or maybe....You tend to overthink things don't you ?

    GOOGLE is your friend.
     
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    You're on intellectual ignore.

    I'm tired of your BS.
     
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    The FACTS are overwhelming homosexuality is not INHERITED or GENETIC. There is no PROOF after over 20 years of researching in mecidical labs and clinics the world over!!

    Therefore Gay behavior is a off-shoot of environmental effects...Gay pedophiles traumatize boy and adolescent children all the time and confuse them - it's very possible that sometimes they become gay or exhibit other self-destructive behavior if not counseled as a result.

    THE GOOD NEWS !! They can be changed back to heterosexual and THROUGH PROFESSIONAL THERAPY repair their lives from the destructive PATHOLOGY of homosexuality.

    Responding to a lwsuit in NJ by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) - Former APA President Dr. Nicholas Cummings (who strongly advocates for gay rights) said, "&#8217;The APA hasn&#8217;t flatly come out and said that reparative therapy should be illegal,&#8217; Cummings said. &#8216;But it is certainly supporting of all those who say that.&#8217;&#8221;

    Further, Cummings said that since he was APA president in 1979-80, the organization has been &#8216;totally hijacked&#8217; by the homosexual/lesbian political lobby. &#8216;It&#8217;s incredible.&#8217;&#8221;

    &#8220;Having personally seen &#8216;hundreds of people change,&#8217; Cummings said the view that all homosexuality is &#8216;hardwired&#8217; and same-sex attraction can NEVER be changed is simply &#8216;not supported by scientific evidence.&#8217;&#8221;

    These are NOT my facts - they are the REPORTED TRUTHS of even the most DEVOUT pro-Gay rights researchers and Phd.'s - gert it ? - this is from PEOPLE that are on YOUR side...

    Maybe you're in need of therapy or at least a second opinion about your lifestyle ? Please read Dr. Cummings editiorial as it may give you hope you too can change. If nothing else, the SPLC and gay /lesbian activists must be prevented from bringing the government between the child's psychological health and sexual CHOICE for the reaminder of his life - even trauma events to children will not be able to be therapeutically treated as a result of CA and NJ's overreach.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ntation-therapy-not-unethical-column/2601159/
     
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    Cummings is lying.
     

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