Can being molested as a child make you gay?

All very good questions. It has been several years since I had any interest in this area, so I totally lost track of how those directions of study are going. I shifted my focus to issues that were far less theoretical and far more useful to me right now. It is a curious thing to consider - what part nurture plays in sexual orientation - but I really don't have the motivation to look into it very deeply.

 

That could invalidate this concept or, as with most things that seem to be affected by a child's environment, the initiating factor may have happened even earlier - before they were five. Many psychological issues that seem to be nurture-based are initiated very early in life, sometimes as early as one or two years old. For instance, I've read a couple of profiles of child psychopaths (the scary kind) that were being raised in very good, loving households. One in particular had several other kids - all healthy and normal. The family adopted this child at about 3 or 4. They apparently took care of the child just like the rest of their children, but when the child was school aged, she did some very horrific things and ended up institutionalized permanently. The cause of that child's psychosis was apparently something that happened very young - earlier than most people's first memories.

I'm not saying that homosexuality is a psychosis - please don't go that direction - I'm just saying that if nurture does play a part in homosexuality, it may very well be determined in how the child is nurtured before they can even remember.

 

No,not all males who are homolested become homo and not all homosexuals were homolestation victims. But, if a boy is a victim of homosexual sex abuse such as by a gay priest, it's more likely he'll be gay behaviorally speaking in adulthood vs. if he wasn't. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality-those who deny it are dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of homosexual Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this. Homosexual behaviors are often result of something bad in life such as possibly bad genes though they've not conclusively proven it's inborn & or sex abuse especially homosexual rape.

Have never heard straight people blame sex abuse for a reason a man has sex with women but I sometimes hear homos & lesbians especially gaysreport childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape. There has been unproven speculation about soy during pregnancy, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and women smoking marijuana during pregnancy & fetus turning out gay/lesbian-American Indians have higher rates of the last 2. But what is known is that if a boy is repeatedly homosexually raped in his youth, the likelihood is more that he'll do homosexual behaviors in adulthood because the sex abuse can damage mind and cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn't. To deny it is dishonest. It's like if a kid lives in a high crime neighborhood & sees muggings, the likelihood is more that he'll be a mugger in his adulthood because of what he learned in his youth. Homosexual rapes in youth or homolestation incr. risk of a boy turning out homosexual. Finally if it can be predicted an unborn baby will be gay/lesbian or transexual, then I'm pro-abortion-if you're pro-choice then don't complain about my pro-abortion view. Finally abolish sex change maimings-transexuals are worse than gays.

 

Not a shock at all......

 

it's a good question and not politically incorrect...I don't know how you could prove it on way or the other, how many abused kids would've turned out gay anyways?...I see looking for a "cause" is correct, people are just born that way it's part of nature found even in animals, it's socially beneficial to have some members of the group to be same sex orientated...

here is someone few are familiar with, Carl Panzram a serial rapist murderer, throw in prison at age 12 raped and abused it would be amazing if any child could come out of his childhood experiences without being screwed up, was he gay before he suffered his abuse and his experiences turned him into a monster or did the experience make him gay?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

 

Thank you. Abolishing sex change mutilations, bringing gay/lesbian behaviors esp. gay behaviors down to 0 is what must be accomplished and aborting them before they're born is a blessing -if you're pro-choice then don't complain about my pro-abortion view aborting unborn gays, lesbians and transexuals.

 

You just make everything more and more clear everytime you post.

 

Wait...so sterilization (vasectomy/tubal ligation/hysterectomy) should be illegal but abortion is acceptable in your views? Interesting.

 

Haha, mom always said, "Kill them with kindness!"

 

I tend to be very skeptical of such research unless I can actually see it. In my experience (and to be clear, most of my experience is talking to laymen), most research on the topic people try to bring up comes from before that 1970's, as SFJeff said. Proper sampling methods and methods for control were not well established and not used when studying homosexual populations until well into the latter half of the century. Before then, almost all research was conducted exclusively on homosexuals who were themselves in mental institutions, prison, seeking psychiatric treatment or removed form the military. I know that in general, research even since then has been limited due to difficulty getting funding and sampling. Generally it's just not that interesting of a topic. The topic stirs people's emotions, but not the type that attracts much funding for intensive longitudinal studies... people are either for it, against it, or couldn't care less, it's not like one of those mental or physical diseases that necessarily causes clear or widespread distress. So, these may remain unanswered questions for some time.

 

Take this FOOLISH, HOMOPHOBIC NONSENSE.. and cram it deep into your keyboard.

Who in the world are you trying to sell this BS to?!!

LOL!!

 

Ya, don't worry about it, it's just a bunch of

 

I think molestation can explain some of it. Of course I think modern industrial pollutants can explain the phenomena as well. What do you think happens to a fetus bathed in pseudo-hormones like BPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A) which can act like estrodiol in the human body? In other words, there are probably 100 causes for observed homosexuality, from the genetic factors, to chemicals in the environment, to molestation. My best guess is that 90% come from either prenatal chemical exposure or genetics, so the molestation thing is rare.

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Well, just about anything is ultimately explained by neurology and therefore brain studies are always a good idea. You are how you are, not just in sexuality but in other preferences, because of your brain being wired a certain way. I like science because I came from a long line of science nerds. I like music because I came from a line of singers and dancers. It's kind of amazing how many things you'll find are running right down the family tree if you bother to research the geneology of your own family.

 

This same "something that happened as a child will make you do such-and-such when you're older" argument can be used...literally...everywhere. From drugs, to drink, to violence, to religion, to racism, you name it, someone can blame it on a childhood incident.

However, childhood incidents(with the possible exclusion of certain kinds of diseases, though this does not apply to being gay) do not alter your innate characteristics. There is also a difference between someone who is gay and someone who has gay sex. Straight people can have gay sex, and vice versa, but that does not in fact mean those people are gay or straight. Someone's actual sexual orientation is something that is really only known to that person because it's personal, uncontrollable, and simply a part of who that person is.

I am not straight because I have sex with women, I have sex with women because I am straight and they are the gender I am physically and mentally attracted to. I did not choose this at any time, it's simply the way I have always been. If I chose to have sex with a guy, I would still be straight, because even though I have chosen to engage in sexual behavior you would call "gay", that sexual behavior does not actually change my innate sexuality. Likewise for someone who is gay. They aren't gay because they are attracted to same-gender people, they are attracted to same-gender people because they are gay.

There may even be people who have no innate sexuality, for whom either genders are equally attractive or equally unattractive. I really don't know why people think it HAS to be one way only. Why? Why does a person have to be straight and everything else is "wrong"? Where is this rule written that it is something everyone would be expected to follow or that stating it would have an actual effect on someone's innate characteristics?

With the way human beings concentrate so hard on the differences between each other, it's a wonder to me sometimes that we as a species have ever managed to accomplish anything.

 

by all means, lets not study a situation truthfully, the answers may not fit with your agenda

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as typical, a gay thread that is filled with Johnny-C's liberal use of the word "homophobe" whenever someone doesn't buy into his agenda completely.

 

Okay, you keep discussing it 'here'... if you believe this "forum" is the proper venue; I really don't think that it is.

 

If the shoe fits.......

 

JeffLV, it's dishonest, delusional or both to deny that sex abuse in youth causes gay/lesbian behaviors in adulthood. Gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted and transexuals are worse. Abolish sex change maimings.

 

Have copied/pasted this before but here's a group of gays and lesbians who among other things, admit sex abuse being a major cause of gayism and lesbianism. Honestly as don't think posters are dumb, any1 including posters who deny link between child molestation and homosexuality are saying what they probably don't believe because it's like denying link between smoking and lung cancer. See below which again is being copied/pasted:

G.A.G.A.
Gays Against the Gay Agenda
We are a group of gay men and women who want to join the fight against the gay political agenda because we know the truth.

Here are a few of our stories. Names have been changed for our safety:

From Abe: I was sexually molested by a neighbor when I was young. I was in counseling for years but as a teen started having gay relationships with other boys. I always said I was born gay but deep down inside I knew that my experiences as a boy were the cause. I still live a gay lifestyle but I know it’s wrong. It’s like a drug. You know it’s wrong, but you keep doing it.

From Adam: My Little League baseball coach molested me when I was 5. I blocked it out of my memory for years but it came rushing back to me one day in my twenties when I was in a car wreck. The trauma somehow pushed it back into my conscious memory. I am gay and always thought it was in my genes, but now I realize differently. I have considered going to counseling but it’s probably too late for me. It’s not too late for me to warn others though.

From Allan: My mother was a prostitute and drug addict. She had sex with other men in front of us kids all the time. Some of the men took advantage of us after taking advantage of her. I have been a part of the gay community since age 14 but I know I was not born this way.

From Anna: I was a foster child. I was molested many times by 3 different foster fathers. I chose to be lesbian because I do not feel comfortable with men in sexual situations.

From Amos: I was in love with a beautiful girl in high school. We started dating. I wanted to have sex. She did not. One night, with some high school friends, I got drunk. I think someone put something in my drink because I passed out. When I woke up, my best friend was giving me oral sex. It scared me because it felt wrong but felt good at the same time. The sex part felt good, but the fact that he was a guy felt wrong. I pushed him away and got dressed. I stomped out of the house. But one night at another party, I was drunk and he showed up. Next thing I knew I was in his car with him and not refusing his advances. I live a gay lifestyle now but I know that if that had never happened, I would probably be married with kids and living a normal life. I would be happy. I am not happy in this lifestyle. I don’t know how to explain why I don’t leave it but I am not happy.

From Andrew: I had no friends in high school. Some other students started being really nice to me. I felt like I finally had friends. They gave me a lot of attention and made me feel like I was part of something. It felt great. They were all part of the Gay Straight Alliance (GSA). They invited me to go with them. At first, I was there as a straight guy to give support to gays and fight against bullying (I had been through my fair share). But then we started socializing outside school. One day, at a party, I was high on drugs, and next thing I knew there was an orgy, and I was lured into it. Afterward, I felt sick. I skipped school for a week but then my parents found out. When I got back to school my friends were really nice and acted as if nothing had happened. It was surreal. Long story short, I ended up in a lot of gay relationships over the years but I know that if I had not had that first relationship, I would not be gay today. What’s weird is I can’t just switch back to the me I was before. I don’t know why but I know I was not born gay. I tell all younger friends to stay away from drugs and alcohol because you do things you normally would not do when you are under the influence and you are sometimes too weak to say no to things you know are wrong.

From Alice: My college roommate lured me into a gay relationship. The sex can feel good but you just know there’s something wrong. I definitely was not born gay.

It is our hope that many gays will stand up and tell the truth by forming small community groups to fight against the gay political agenda. Let your friends call you a traitor. You know better. We mustn’t have a central leader or that leader will be bullied into backing down. Like the Tea Party, we will be leaderless but powerful. We must help young people avoid what we fell into. Join with your straight fiends and make a difference.

Save the date:

12-12-12

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12:00

On December 12, 2012, at 12 midnight, straight people and gay people who are against the gay political agenda, must walk outside with a candle, lighter, or flashlight and raise it in the air to show our solidarity. Let it shine upward into the sky. If you live in a cold climate, dress warmly. Stay for at least 30 minutes and let shine your courage, your determination, your knowledge that gay people are mostly victims, and we know we are being used to further an agenda.

 

Something else though not said in this topic but which often gets raised. Gay/lesbian groups & transexuals (worse than gays) often assume that any1 who is against gayism & transexuality must be Christian or religious w/o even knowing them. I'm non-religious poster who is against gays & transexuals. While I admit religious people especially Christians are more likely to agree with me while Atheists are more likely to be apologists for gays/lesbians, there are atheists (though I'm not) who are against gayism & transexuality.

Yes, psychologists who oppose gay & lesbian behaviors are often Christian, but while I'm not religious, there's nothing wrong with Judeo-Christians & Muslims using their faiths to justify their views against gayism. There are good Catholic hospitals, as Christian hospitals can do good or even better medical care. But though Hinduism is neutral on the gay/lesbian topic, there are Hindus who are against gayism and lesbianism. There are non Judeo-Christians such as Hindus who know and say that sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexuality & transexuality. It remains to be seen how many of homosexual Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think think they're gay or worse transexual because of this. It's like if you're a smoker, you're @ higher risk of getting lung cancer. No, not all smokers get lung cancer and many people who get lung cancer are nonsmokers but honestly if you smoke, you're @ more risk for lung cancer. Same thing with sex abuse and adult gay behavior. If 1 is a victim of homosexual rape in youth, then it's more risk he'll be gay in adulthood.

 

If being molested as a child can make a straight kid gay, then can being molested as a child also make a gay kid straight? Its not a silly question. If molestation changes sexuality, why would it not work both ways?

 

It's my view that you're asking what you know is silly because it's like asking if smoking tobacco can cause some1 with clean lungs to get lung cancer then can smoking tobacco clean out dirty lungs. There's something wrong with gay behaviors in and of itself & transexuality is worse, whether 1 does gay/lesbian behaviors because of childhood sex abuse or bad biology such as genes-though it's not been proven it's result of bad genes. Again, I’ve never heard a straight person blame childhood sex abuse for reason a man has sex with a woman & has kids with her (it's straight sexual behavior penis/vaginal sex which results in procreation while gays and lesbians behavior doesn't as gays/lesbian couples who have kids use A.I.) but I’ve heard some gays & lesbians blame bad things such as childhood sex abuse as shown in G.A.G.A.

Michael E. Glatze who is now a Christian used to be edittor of Young Gay America and a gay activist until he changed his view on gayism in 2007 and he says gayism is often result of bad things in life. It’s undebatable truth that if a person’s a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it’s more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned. Many gays were victims of homosexual rapes when they were boys such as by gay priests. Childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape is a major cause of gay behaviors because boys who are homosexually raped are more likely to do gay behaviors in adulthood. It's my belief that you know this but dispute what you know is true.

 

Sex and sexual-orientation is not an addiction nor a disease. Terrible analogy.

More homophobic nonsense.

Really, have you read anything CREDIBLE on the topic of human sexuality?