Can being molested as a child make you gay?

You know what? I did. And the first result I found? A letter from Spitzer denouncing the study and apologizing for it, and an interview where he admits the same.

Is it any wonder that in the 2007 review of the peer-reviewed literature (which included the Spitzer paper), the APA found no credible evidence that ex-gay therapy worked? It's because the methodology of the paper was fatally flawed from the start. Hell, a lot of the people considered "successes" admit that they still struggle with same-sex attraction. Um, excuse me, but that's not a success if the goal of the therapy is to make people not gay!

As for Cummings, help me out here... Has he ever provided any evidence that what he's saying is true? Any evidence that these hundreds of people actually exist? Any names? Anyone who stepped forward? And any way to demonstrate that they were actually telling the truth, or even understood what "success" meant in that case? Excuse me for not wanting to just take his word for it when the subject has so many people who are lying, either to further an agenda or to rebuff their own urges (see also: Ted Haggard, John and Anne Paulk, countless others).

Huh, maybe you're right. I should google it more often, because it sure does help to show off just how behind the times your information is.

 

Well, he may be I don't know...I tend to believe him, you don't have to - but whatever -

You must admit he's always been on "your side" so to speak. You can check his CV and USA Today editiorial last month here re: his 25 years of history of his staff seeing an estimated 25,000 homosexuals @ K-P and giving therapy to 2,000 himself:http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ntation-therapy-not-unethical-column/2601159/

I verifed his Kaiser-Perm. background he is VERY well-respected still - he's created foundations and done a lot of good for the mental health of a lot of folks.... and he started an HMO for psychiatric health that covered over 25 million needy folks at one time before being bought out.

The main thing for you is that he has not studied or, in his mind, determined if childhood sexual abuse (CSA) is a specific factor in a boy or girl becoming homosexual, and my main point is only that he's personally assisted or seen "several hundreds" of "motivated" adult gays successfully leave that lifestyle to become straight or if they don't leave it, they can become well-adjusted to it thanks to his team's therapy. That's a WIN-WIN if you ask me.http://www.psychotherapy.net/interview/nick-cummings

And you can go here for more:http://thecummingsfoundation.org/ab...aff-biographies/nicholas-a-cummings-ph-d-sc-d

Despite his "controversial" findings over his career, he is the recipient of numerous awards, including psychology’s highest, the APF Gold Medal for Lifetime Achievement in Practice.

 

The problem here is the same as with every other case: there's nothing to differentiate a success from someone lying to themselves and others, and his personal opinion and memories are not the same things as an actual study. The man is a great psychologist, nobody denies that, but the problem is that none of this is verifiable, and just taking his word for it shouldn't be good enough for anyone. Especially given the flaws which only today are truly coming to light about such therapy and the evidence that supposedly supports them. For example, a recent study from Regent University, where they basically admit that ex-gays talk the talk but don't walk the walk. As said, great psychologist, but Duesburg was a great doctor, and very wrong about a crucial issue. This guy didn't let that one obsession destroy his career, but we shouldn't take things as gospel from him.

 

Molestation doesn't "feel good" and is quite offensive to even think about a child.

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If 1 is molested as a child, then it can and often does distort their view of reality. Of course it does not feel good, but the child who is molested is likely to think it's normal. Many homosexuals were victims of childhood sex abuse when they were children such as by gay priests and boys who are victims of this are more likely to be gay in adulthood.

Telling the ugly truths of who a dead gay person was is right though you dislike it. & again, you're talking about faith to 1 who is not religious. But you can get into heaven telling ugly truth. In addition to Methew Wayne Shepard being a drunkard junky and possibly a drug dealer, Methew W. Shepard was arrested when he was 15 years for homolesting 8 year old boys-he got counseling for it. See link below and quote to part of what was written.

http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2013/10/matthew-shepard-mythers-his-arrest-for.html


'... Methew Wayne's history of psychiatric ailments and self-medicating with alcohol and drugs. Apparently, his wound from being sexually victimized also manifested in another common but tragic pattern: The victim becomes a perpetrator himself.

At age 15 Methew Wayne Shepard was arrested for molesting two eight-year-old boys in his Casper neighborhood. According to a relative of one of the boys, Methew Wayne Shepard received counseling to help him deal with the incident; he'd also attempted suicide and been hospitalized, she said.'

 

They were worried about this in the 1950's: [video=youtube;MmqNiFJyI28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqNiFJyI28[/video]

 

i dont know if it can make you gay, BUT it could have a psychological effect on you and your sexual tendencies. For instance a good friend who i grew up with was molested for 3 years from the age of 8 till 11, thats when she finally went to her parents and let it be known what was going on. it took about 5 years for her to beat the depression and other mental issues. But something that never went away was she wasnt attracted to guys her own age, she talked about always looking at older men as a turn on. Now i know all girls like their Brad Pitts or Channing Tatum's, but this wasnt a lil girly crush she was experiencing. It was not something she was proud of and she would cry about it because she hated the fact that she thought that way, even finding a teacher of hers very attractive when she was 14 but at the same time made her sick.

Molestations never end well, even when the sicos are caught and put to justice because the victim does suffer mentally, some handle it better than others but damage is done. It can have a psychological effect on who you might get turned on by even if you are not trying or truly dont want to.

But can it make you gay? maybe some do and others dont but i dont think its 100% positive that you will be gay if you are molested by a man, or a girl molested by a woman.

 

But it's not being said that in 100% of cases it happens only that possibility is more. If a boy is repeatedly homosexually raped in his youth, the likelihood is more that he'll do homosexual behaviors in adulthood because the sex abuse can damage mind and cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn't. It's like if a kid lives in a high crime neighborhood & sees muggings, the likelihood is more that he'll be a mugger in his adulthood because of what he learned in his youth. It remains again to be seen how many of Gerald Arthur (Jerry) Sandusky's victims will think in their adulthood that they're homosexual. No, not all boys who are homosexually raped in youth become gay in adulthood & yes, there are many gays who weren't homosexually raped in their youths. But homosexual rapes in youth incr. risk of a boy turning out homosexual.

 

Ha-Ha!! I've watched that film about 15 times. It is so over-the-top and ludicrous. There are generally a few good points for keeping kids safe... but that emphasis on "the homosexual" is HILARIOUS!!

Thanks for that link; I have to add it to my YouTube 'favorites'. And WTF... Jimmy got "probation"!! Wow.

Seriously folks:

Homosexuals are NOT "sick" or equal to violent 'criminals'.

 

It is entertaining.

 

I started laughing my ass off when they were like, "That looks innocent enough...Lots of young people hitchhike, it's a good way to get from one place to another."

I was like...OMFG just IMAGINE if they said that today? Parents would be freaking out. LMAO!!!!

Also, I love how ridiculously creepy they made that guy look. Ugly stache', balding, shady sunglasses. Gee, ain't he a real creeper? ROFL

 

Hello Jane, when did you get here?^

Winter Wipeoout TV have broken bones and manslaughter every minutes. P-E-N-I-S goes into the anus to rupture intestines. DON'T GO GAY!

[video=youtube;wRxjJZFGgNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRxjJZFGgNM[/video]

 

Seriously, what the (*)(*)(*)(*)? I honestly think this lady is mentally ill. Gays molest boys because they don't have aids yet? Is she serious? So much is wrong with everything she is saying.

 

Says the typical (*)(*)(*)...

 

Lol, wow, she does sound oddly familiar. It's like her train of thought doesn't even get derailed, rather it flies off the tracks, teleports across the world and crashes, over and over. You sometimes have to wonder if these aren't intentional parodies.

 

Anecdotally, there are cases where gays who have AIDS homolest boys. So yes, there are individual cases which supports her conclusion. Gays who have AIDS have homolested young boys and the boys got sick with AIDS, so that has happened. Gays hero worship cowards such as Harvey B. Milk. In Book of Matt by Stephen Jimenez it is learned that Methew Wayne Shepard homolested 8 year old boys but only got counseling for it. Anybody who denies link between a boy being homolested and the boy doing gay behaviors in adulthood is dishonest, delusional or both.

Homosexual behaviour should be marginalised as tobacco use. You can be secular as I am and see the harms of homosexual and lesbian behaviour as you can see the harms of tobacco use. Many homosexuals and lesbians suffered child molestation and had this not happened, the likelihood is less of them committing homosexual behaviours. There possibly are other causes such as genetics or biology, but there are also proven biological reasons for tobacco use. If they discover cure for homosexuality, then this topic becomes a moot point. Uganda has laws against homosexuality and their reasoning is secular. Ugandan citizens are usually not telling other nations what their laws on homosexuality should be so we have no right to tell Uganda how to run their nation.

1 thing which must be added is that in most cases, if a gay is homolesting others, it's usually not going to be reported to cops. Most men and boys who are victims of gays usu. won't call cops to report that a gay is committing indecent exposure, harassment or in worst cases homolestation until some1 finally bashes the gay. If a gay is going to look for 15 year old boys on Internet to meet and abuse-if instead they get bashed by men who pretended to be the 15 year old they had hoped to meet, then no sympathy for the gay. The Russian men who are bashing gays are doing this because they won't tolerate gays going after teenage boys. yes, while vigilanteism must still be punished by law as you have to do it legally with cops arresting the gays who abuse teenage boys and then the legal system punishing the gays after they've been hopefully convicted, what is happening here is vigilanteism. The gays who are looking for teenage boys to homolest get no sympathy for being bashed.

With Harvey B. Milk homosexual/lesbian groups such as Laramie Project, Shepard Foundation and Journalist Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old boy in 1964. Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt's a farting Squaw who while pregnant sometimes did turds in front of her husband. Most gay bashings are men reacting to crimes the homosexual & transexual ( worse than homosexuals) did. Homosexuals often harass teenage boys or smaller men & the men react by bashing the homosexual. I would rather have a case where a jury decides if a man&#8217;s reaction to bashing or killing a homosexual after the homosexual did indecent exposure was justified or excess, vs. the man not doing enough & the homosexual does something worse.

Homosexual/lesbian sexual behaviors are bad-they must try to find a cure for this. Transexuals are homose and they must make it a crime to do sex change maimings. 1 does not need to be Judeo-Christian to be against this. Big Island Chronicle's Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt has smoked marijuana. Of course Big Island Chronicle&#8217;s Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt sees nothing wrong with Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abusing a 14 year old girl in public bathroom http://spectator.org/blog/2013/05/23&#8230;t-to-normalize Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt is likely related to lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt & Big Island Chronicle&#8217;s Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt masturbated after she learned Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abused a 14 year old girl in a bathroom. Huffington Post when it comes to gay topics give 1/2 truths. Huffington Posters saw nothing wrong with Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abusing a 14 year old girl in a public restroom and predictably Huffington Post and Daily Kos (even worse) both see nothing wrong with sexual abuse when it's done by gays.

 

Lying about people committing a crime is wrong. Rule 10 challenge. Provide your evidence milk statutory rapped anyone.

 

Rule 10 challenge. Prove milk raped someone or retract the claim

 

I think it can certainly be a precipitating factor that leads to that unfortunate condition.

 

I voted "Other" because I am honestly not sure. I have not read research on the issue and I will accept whatever scientific research decides on the issue. However, I lean towards yes. I believe that being molested as a child may very well have an impact on a person's sexual orientation when they become an adult.