Can we have an honest talk about the Elephant in the room?

Ask a silly question, you get a silly answer.

 

I wasn't aware that he pissed you off. Looks like we owe him another point on the scoreboard of achievements..

 

How would you characterize mayors painting BLM banners on city streets while riots are occuring, or top politicians referring to a president as a Nazi and defending rioters wanting to burn down court houses and police stations, or politicos working hard to get rioters released from jail, or...........?

 

I dunno. Let me ask you. How do you characterize "all."

 

Trying to sneak out the back door because there were actually a few Democrats that did not back up and support the rioters?

 

Can we have an honest talk about the Elephant in the room?

For me the elephant in the room is marxism. It is the most dangerous cancer our country has faced in my lifetime. 50 years ago both parties viewed marxism as an enemy to our society. Today half the people embrace it without even understanding it.

 

Nope. I don't sneak. Back up your claims. Or not. Doesn't matter to me.

I've backed mine up.

 

Got some links of praise to rioters?
Again, are you thinking all those protesters are rioters? You know most of the protests were peaceful. Yes?

If dems are supporting them as you claim, why would not Antifa show their return support with flags, like the people who over run the Capital with their trump flags and hats.
Hint, Antifa is supported by DEMS.

I've seen the interview of Harris on Colbert?, I think, talking about protesters and funds to help those mistakenly arrested. So, I know the BS that comes from RW news sources. I assume those are the reports you are referring to.

Else, you'd have credible sources to back up your claims instead of telling me to go find sources to back up YOUR claim.

 

EDIT

Anftia is NOT supported by dems.

 

That has nothing to do with the Senate's actions not falling under the Founder's concept of checks and balances.

 

Never. They are about scaring people and trying to assign blame for the problems we have, not solving them.

Washington (CNN)Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger urged his party to refrain from pushing lies, conspiracies and division on Sunday, saying if its members continue to do so it shouldn't be in control of the House.

"All I can say right now is my party has to embrace truth. We have to have a full reckoning of what happened on January 6 and we have to turn away from conspiracy," Kinzinger, a moderate Republican from Illinois, told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" when asked whether he thinks voters should trust House Republican leaders with the majority in the next election.
"I think if we're going to be in charge and pushing conspiracy and pushing division and pushing lies, then the Republican Party should not have the majority," the congressman said.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/05/politics/adam-kinzinger-republican-party-majority-cnntv/index.html

 

I have no problem, in fact support, peaceful protestors. However, I detest "protesters" that riot, loot, burn, maim and kill, and any politicos that support such just because they believe it will help their political cause.

No serious riotous protester with the brains of a 6th grader ever waves the flag of actual supporters. Antifa and BLM never wave Democrat flags or banners; they are smarter than that. Rioters who wave flags are either ignoramuses are smartly trying to deflect blame to others, as with the Jan 6 rabble rousers..

Oh, you heard Harris say she was just helping out wrongfully arrested people? It seems you swallowed that not so subtle BS hook line and sinker. Links are of no help nor use nor interest to people who simply have an rock hardened agenda.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...suspects-get-out-of-jail-while-awaiting-trial

 

dupe

 

Kamala Harris warns protest will and should continue after election

 

Is Keith Ellison a Dem?

 

That question is one people should ask about many things, because "all" as a wholly inclusive term is rarely accurate.
The perception of "all" would likely be used when the prevailing visible participants in an action are of similar mindset- and moreso when the other members of that group either endorse or fail to disavow the actions. In other words- all becomes the visible and those who support the visible conduct. By saying nothing, we give a kind of tacit approval to bad behavior, and a kind or tacit rejection of good behavior.
People need to recognize and control their individuality, and be aware of what they lose when they become herd animals.

 

Agreed, but in this case, the "all" is closer to "none." That's why it's hyperbole.

 

Coming from an unhinged partisan like you that's considered a compliment. You wouldn't know reality if it bit you in the arse.

I'm not interested in the Trumpist version of "solutions" nor am I interested in your party's version of "solutions" because quite frankly you have none. Credit where credit is due: you are very good at creating them. Just look at Afghanistan.

 

I realize it's point of view; it's hard to keep score with so many blind players and officials. All i can do is look at what the people on the left do, how they say they see those things, and ask myself- What the hell is wrong with them?

It's not one or two things. It's not things that are minimal in real differences- it's the batshat crazy stuff that can't possibly have any foundation in reality or is totally emotionally incoherent.
I've spent a lot of years studying how people think and why. I became good enough at this, at reading people that I taught classes in it, and became known enough that clinical psychologists came to learn.
I'm not a psychologist, but even today, I still have meeting with people who teach psychology. I'm not guessing about the rationality of these people- I know damn well they are so far off the rails they have no idea who they are or why. How in hell did people who think that way ever gather enough followers to get positions of power? They're basically without long-term perception of cognizance of empirical values.
Makes no sense- and they have no awareness that it makes no sense.

 

Most everyone who is for protests are for peaceful protesters and detests those who break the law. Those that broke the law were a small part of the protests. More than normal, but still small overall.

Wow, trump flags were all over the Capital on Jan 6.

If I remember the interview correctly, yes. The entire interview was about protesters. No riots were on the topic.

 

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Are you against protests? Why? It's in the constitution to PROTEST.

 

I say the same, but I'm not picky. From my point of view people have something wrong with them. Including me. It's called being human.

Now, when someone does something batshit insane, I say, "What a maroon." I don't say, what a <take your choice of ideology>.

Ideologies are stupid. Ideas aren't, which is why ideologies are stupid. Ideology presupposes all the ideas. Sure, times change, people change, but the concept of ideology is a chain around my neck. I may as well be a Buddhist. Or a Nazi. Or a liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, you name it.

Anyway, as you've certainly noticed, I don't care about the left. But in keeping with the convo, here's a protest.



Here's a riot.



There's plenty in -between, and outside these events. These two will do.

Which are the left?

Why should I care what any of those people's politics are? I see peaceful protest and cops showing respect. I see punks who need some time in the joint. I support the protestors and I'll lock the punks up myself. I really don't care if they, or you, see them as "the left." I'm guessing the punks don't vote.

You owe me an irony meter.

It doesn't have to make sense. And it's not supposed to make sense. If you're as educated as you say you are, you know this.

There's only one thing that matters, psychologically, and that is how you feel. Not you personally, though it's a universal human...trait?...frailty?...does it matter?

If it makes someone feel normal to get a sex change, that doesn't bother me. Whether you or anyone else thinks that is irrational is none of my business.

Alright, man. That's enough. Whatcha got?

 

Are you referring to the peaceful Trump supporting protesters or the rag-tag rabble rousers?