Can we have an honest talk about the Elephant in the room?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucifer, Sep 4, 2021.

  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except no one is forced to get a shot nor wear a mask.
     
    Lucifer likes this.
  2. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,890
    Likes Received:
    9,654
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You know, Bulls, I'm really sad to see you post this dribble. While we may not agree politically on a lot of things, I never expected you to become another Trump minion after all these years. At the very least, I expected you to be a Never Trumper Republican, but it looks like I was wrong.
     
    ChiCowboy likes this.
  3. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,481
    Likes Received:
    10,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And you don't understand that demeaning and disrespectful DRIVEL like this only makes things worse?

    What's your purpose for this thread? Just felt like ******** over half of your fellow Americans, or are you actually trying to make things better?
     
  4. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As regards Jan 6, weren't they the same people?
     
    Lucifer likes this.
  5. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But not to me. When I criticize an original post, for example, I'm not necessarily criticizing the original poster...I hope PF allows that.

    I don't criticize original posters just their original posted thoughts.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2021
  6. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,560
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As I said, neither Antifa nor BLM are stupid.
     
  7. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,560
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, or a very few, and those would be happenstance.
     
    21Bronco likes this.
  8. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I would say that you have a strange understanding of "a very few". Is it possible that we didn't see the same coverage?
     
  9. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    38,782
    Likes Received:
    14,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm guessing that he meant that, yes they were the same people but only a few of them fired up the riot. People are sheep and riot instigators know that.
     
  10. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,560
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm pretty sure we witnessed the same thing, but surmise we saw different things.
     
  11. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,514
    Likes Received:
    52,083
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yup and now this:

    Kamala-Backed Bail Fund Freed Domestic Abuser Now Charged With Murder.

    “A bail fund promoted by Vice President Kamala Harris freed a domestic abuser just weeks before police arrested him again for murder. Minneapolis police arrested George Howard on Aug. 29 after the career criminal allegedly shot 38-year-old Luis Martinez Ortiz to death following a road rage incident. Roughly three weeks earlier, the Minnesota Freedom Fund bailed out Howard following a domestic violence charge, the group confirmed in a statement.”

    She's unfit.

    [​IMG]
    She's an example of Biden's terrible judgment.​
     
  12. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But trump supporters are? Flag wavers and picture takers trying to stop the election.

    Are dems not stupid either, since I've seen no credible dem support any rioters. Except by your claims, which you've failed to prove.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2021
    Lucifer likes this.
  13. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Here ya go, dairyair.

    Indeed, the truth is quite the opposite.

    Pelosi condemns Antifa violence in Berkeley after criticism | Fox News

    Biden condemns Antifa, violence 'across the board' amid riots | Fox News

    On June 3, Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the majority whip of the House of Representatives, told The Washington Post that the movement for racial justice suffers when it is “hijacked” by violence.

    "We have to make sure we do not allow ourselves to play the other person’s game,” Clyburn said. “Peaceful protest is our game. Violence is their game. Purposeful protest is our game. This looting and rioting, that's their game. We cannot allow ourselves to play their game."

    Fact check: Democrats have [not] condemned violence linked to protests (usatoday.com)

    Our rating: False
     
    Lucifer and dairyair like this.
  14. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    [​IMG]
    Yes. Secuity cleared the Capital
    [​IMG]
    Yep, we saw different things.
     
    Lucifer and ChiCowboy like this.
  15. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Every trump big lie believer, know fox tv is nothing but a liar.
     
    Lucifer and ChiCowboy like this.
  16. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Doesn't that defy logic?
     
  17. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not if your calculus of "few" includes the population of India.
     
  18. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,743
    Likes Received:
    7,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, it is absolutely not.
     
  19. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,481
    Likes Received:
    10,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Wrong.
     
  20. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,743
    Likes Received:
    7,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Back when polio was around they would drag people out of their homes and vaccinate them, that's authoritarian, mask mandates not a chance.
     
  21. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,481
    Likes Received:
    10,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Uh, no. They sent letters to parents getting their permission. I can remember standing in line with my first-grade classmates waiting to get the shot.

    Oh, BTW, authoritarian does require blatant force; get a shot or lose your job is just as authoritarian. Or even telling restaurants not to allow un-vaxxed people to enter.
     
    RodB likes this.
  22. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,743
    Likes Received:
    7,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And businesses can do that.
     
  23. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,506
    Likes Received:
    3,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Until of course the Republicans retake power and then it will be back to "with is or against us" and opposing unjust government overreach will be met with "why do you hate Amurica?"

    Authoritarianism seems to swap sides depending on who is in power. Funny how that works eh?
     
    Lucifer likes this.
  24. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,506
    Likes Received:
    3,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It was quite notable and stark hypocrisy how we were hearing Democrat leaders condemn large gatherings under the height of Covid, but at the same time praised the BLM mass gatherings.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2021
    Steve N likes this.
  25. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,481
    Likes Received:
    10,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sure they can, if they choose to be authoritarian about it. I don't thing you have a firm grasp of what authoritarianism IS.
     

Share This Page