Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want to echo that. I understand I point out the flaws of Democrats all the time. But I am not wanting to come off as mean. I used to be a Democrat and know there is the chance my comments can convert one or more to the republican side. Why don't I promote libertarians. I happen to truly like them the most of all. I do not want to change republicans to libertarians since we think so much alike. I want Democrats converted. They have the false philosophy.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know many conservatives who are also Christians. I also know many liberals who are Christians. However I think it is impossible to be a Trump supporter and a Christian. Trump is the antithesis of Christian principles and beliefs. Those so called "Evangelicals" who proudly support this scheming whore chasing crook are not Christians.
     
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    You : """"progressives" believe in big govt, they believe its the job of the govt to provide charity and set moral and enforce standards, not the individual."""



    Progressives want to impose their morals on others and ban abortion ? REALLY????

    NO, that would be christian conservatives who want to set everyone else's morals....


    Progressives want to "enforce standards" and ban abortion ? REALLY Progressives??? NO, that would be Christian conservatives.

    THEY are the ones who want more GOVERNMENT interference in private lives by attempting to ban abortion.

    THEY want to take away INDIVIDUAL rights by banning abortion..


    AND YES it IS government's job to provide charity ...that is taking care of it's citizens...that is government's main job........but Christian conservatives think it's war and worshipping the wealthy......
     
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    AND it is a Christian who started this thread just to stir up hatred for others......how commendable :roll:


    A Christian who can't seem to answer questions...
     
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    Why are you making up a new question - thus moving the goal posts.

    If you want to comment - the state what is in common between communists and Liberals that makes liberals unable to be Christians. (rather than asking a bunch of new questions that do not relate)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing in post 65 relates to the above claim (2) . You are the one utterly ignorant of Christianity "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and me what is mine". "my kingdom is not of this world".

    1) Where does Jesus say that one must believe in Theocracy - in order to be a Christian ? Answer - Nowhere
    2) How does believing that the Gov't should not be a Theocracy - make one unfit to be a Christian ?
    3) are you are aware the our system removes religion from the realm of Gov't /Law ?
     
  7. it's just me

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    It's neither here nor there, you can't be an atheist and adhere to Christian teachings, they are mutually exclusive.
     
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    Right, aren't libs always the ones saying "judge not" even as they judge?
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is typical of Democrats. To craft diversion tactics.
     
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    Oh no not more extremism. Let me educate you. Most Americans are free to believe in God so scratch communism there. You like laws like banning women’s reproductive freedom but yet you fight for guns that are dangerous. Don’t be afraid no one is taking your macho gun away, be afraid! It’s like other things we need regulations. Don’t you like your food inspected? Don’t you like that people have licenses to drive? Maybe you’re a communist.You like the laws that you believe in but condemn the ones you don’t. You remind me of the people who quote the Bible and only quite the things they like but condem the things they don’t
     
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    Liberals say that? We also say, hello and how are you. Lol...
     
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    We disagree on that which is o.k. I was raised as a child in a very Christian environment during what I will call my 'formative years'. The fact that, as a young adult, I chose not to label myself a Christian doesn't mean I changed my behavior. If it affected me in any way I would have to say it made me more liberal.
     
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    So do you love God and your neighbor as yourself, because that is the "behavior" that matters, not how "nice" you think you are.
     
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    Do I love god? No, can't love something that doesn't exist. Do I love my neighbor? A hell of a lot more than most christians that I know.
     
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    Well, it's as I thought, you don't know what in hell you are talking about, you don't know what Jesus taught, and you don't care, you are all talk, like most non believers are, trying to make yourself seem superior. Superior to God, mostly.
     
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    Liberals are only compassionate helping the poor using other peoples money.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    very judgemental.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This portrays just some of the actions of our last "liberal" President![​IMG]
     
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    That would be a mere technicality, as materialists are generally sanguine about imagining the rules by which matter exists came from nowhere, so they're not going to be threatened by the idea that matter is really nothing but information, which can just as easily come from nowhere.

    What you seem not to understand about materialism as a philosophy is that its value consists entirely in its utility as a means of obscuring awareness of God's existence; so if materialism takes a fatal blow, they'll find an alternative faster than roaches scurrying for cover when the lights come on.
    Actually I'm pretty sure if you ever met Christ, he'd be the most detestable of the lot, from your perspective. :wink:
    :roll:
     
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    If you're 83 you realize you've done some things right. :)
     
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    Hardly so, since many of the attributes of Christ have been social norms long before the time of Jesus.
    That would be like you saying" You can't be a Christian and not be a Christian".
     
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    Use only two sheets of TP?
     
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    Seems like you think you’re superior because you believe in the invisible man in the sky
     
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    We willingly give our money to the poor while you support giving your money to the billionaires. We just have different priorities
     
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    Lousy photoshopping and head cropping.
     

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