Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

Then enlighten me on not having an understanding. I have not seen it yet, but perhaps you can deliver? What is it exactly that I do not understand? Materialism? Idealism? The assumptions involved in both? Is it how philosophical materialism is the foundation of science? What?

Right, not all assumptions are lies, but with these types of assumptions we are speaking of, to date there has been no way in hell to evidence that those assumptions are not lies. Nor to evidence that those assumptions are true. It is just the nature of a philosophical assumption. It is the nature of philosophy itself.

If you do not understand that philosophical materialism is an assumption then you are the one who lacks a most basic understanding here. And yet you accuse me of that? ha ha

 

Stop hallucinating.
The boy gave of his own free will.
A liberal socialist would have mandated the boy be stripped of his food for distribution to others.

But,......I'm glad you think redistribution should be voluntary.

 

You obviously don't understand the story, the meaning and purpose of the story. Jesus would not be happy with you. People who say they are Christian and are nothing like Christ ....hmmmm.

"Feed the hungry! Help those in trouble! Then your light will shine out from the darkness, and the darkness around you shall be as bright as day. And the Lord will guide you continually, and satisfy you with all good things, and keep you healthy too; and you will be like a well-watered garden, like an ever-flowing spring. (TLB, Isaiah 58:10-11)

But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him? (NAS, 1 John 3:17)

And the crowds asked [John the Baptist], "What then should we do?" In reply he said to them, "Whoever has two coats must share with anyone who has none; and whoever has food must do likewise." (NRSV, Luke 3:10-11)

The Bible tells us to share generously with those in need, and good things will come to us in turn. We are not meant to live hard-hearted or self-centered lives. This is never made clearer than in Matthew 25:31-46. A greedy, miserly life leaves us devoid of anything but an empty craving for more possessions, more power or more status.

He who gives to the poor will never want, but he who shuts his eyes will have many curses. (NAS, Proverbs 28:27)

It is not necessary to be a wealthy philanthropist or a full-time volunteer to make a meaningful contribution. Rather, we should give generously of whatever wealth and abilities we have, no matter how small the amount.

And [Jesus] looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury. And He saw a certain poor widow putting in two small copper coins. And He said, "Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all of them; for they all out of their surplus put into the offering; but she out of her poverty put in all that she had to live on." (NAS, Luke 21:1-4)

 

This makes no sense. How does Dem's engaging in diversion tactics make them communists and what does this have to do with whether or not they are Christians ?

 

Morally or semantically ?

 

Trumpers screa. Commie, socialist and have no idea what they mean

 

Isn't it somewhat sad that in today's time there needs to be such a redistribution of goods received and/or earned? It must have something to do with lack of Education which would show that there might have been something amiss in Education years. Either that or the Government shares in blame. But since when would Government be the ones to blame? After all, Government officials are only HUMAN also.

 

It's always been like that, there have always been people in need. Anyone with a microscopic knowledge of history knows that. Today we are kinder by legislating sharing because people are too mean to share of their own volition. When we legislate programs for the needy, we do the work of Christ.

 

Leechers would not be happy with me

People who like to take from others are so cute.

When's the last time you helped anybody with your own time, energy and resources?
Fifth of never

 

You've said things that don't make sense, and I've told you why they don't make sense. I don't know what else you expect me to do.

The nature of the assumption is nothing; the nature of the assumer is everything.

I didn't say it's not an assumption. You said it's nothing but an assumption, which is incorrect.

 

Now wait just a minute. The golden showers haven't been proven yet. And you forgot cheating on wives and bearing false witness.

 

It is nothing but an assumption. Need I direct you to philosophy 101? So, you are making no sense here. And somehow, you think that you do?

For something not to be an assumption, you must be able to provide evidence that it is a fact. I will wait as you come up empty on that evidence. Take your time.

 

My entire 30 year career was about helping others with my time, energy and resources. How about you?

 

You did it for free?

 

Are we diferentiating liberal from progressive here?

Protestantism was a lead-in to classical liberalism, being that they both value individual liberty as paramount.

Progressivism focusses on the collective over the individual and authoritative enforcement, which sounds like it would be more compatible with Catholicism.

 

I chose a career wherein the focus was not worshipping the almighty dollar but had to do only with helping others. What do you spend your life on? Worshipping the almighty dollar no doubt.

For example: say I was a Christian clergyman. My life dedicated to others. Earning a modest salary. You'd put that down and say I didn't give of myself to others as a career?

 

Obviously yes, as liberalism is the philosophy closest to the philosophy of Christ.

Anyone making up stories about liberals being evil communists, as some on this thread have done, is lying, and is thus is a servant of Satan, the Lord of Lies. They may think they serve Christ, but by their actions, they display their true allegiance to Satan.

And note that I'm not claiming all conservatives do that. I'm pointing out how individuals here have done it. Assigning such behavior to all conservatives would be dishonest, and since liberalism rejects the use of dishonesty and immorality, a good liberal wouldn't use such a tactic.

Now, according to Dante, liars go to Malbolge, the 8th layer of hell, and reside in the tenth ring. As they were diseases on the body of society in life, they spend eternity afflicted by diseases like leprosy, endlessly screaming and clawing at each other. I would hope people would want to avoid that fate, and would thus stop making up false stories about liberals.

 

Americans really need to re-think their usage of "liberal", because we have butchered that word to mean nothing but "left wing." But with the advent of the internet, with discussions now being worldwide, we should start using the word correctly, as the British still do.

 

No, materialism is a lie as well.

No, you need to extract your cranium from your rectum.

I don't expet to make sense to lovers of nonsense. Why anyone otherwise inclined would think I'm making no sense I haven't the foggiest idea.

You don't have to think when you know.

Which I do.

 

IMO Liberal churches and their agenda is not about God, but about mankind. I think they miss the message and the purpose of Jesus, his time on this earth, death and resurrection, mainly because they don't consider the Bible as God's word... But a book to be used as a guideline where fitting.

But I have known liberal people who consider themselves Christian and I certainly will accept them at their word.

 

You cannot know that materialism is a lie. That is a fact, and you are not mentally capable of recognizing it. So, I will waste no more of my time. Thanks for nothing.

 

Yes and you show it quite well. You need a moral anchor rather than what you dream up.

 

You are a very busy girl.....doing that at the same time reporting those that offend you. You really need a "safe place".

 

We took God out of schools and left the teaching to those that are wise in their own eyes like yourself. That alone would drive kids to commit suicide and shoot up schools.

 

Sorry but everything doesn't have to be done in the schools. Children follow the examples set by their parents who are probably two busy watching sports on television to bother actually raising their children.