Capitalism is killing our morals, our future

No, but I have been stolen from by the Federal Government in the name of monetary assistance to those who are too lazy, too stupid, too inept, or too self-righteous to do any work.
Trump is no worse that Warren Buffet and George Soros. If anything, he is half a centimeter closer to the economic truth.

 

You have to stop being a sucker for the "Poor Vs Rich"... It's bull(*)(*)(*)(*).. There is nothing wrong to be rich and there is nothing to be shame off being poor. Both classes have both the looter and producers.. The looters are looting everybody the rich and the poor. With this rhetoric you just playing in to the top looters hand.. That's called divide and conquer. Wile we are arguing about this they are taking our freedoms away and looting our wealth. And they are doing it through your taxes and government programs.. That is why both parties doing the same (*)(*)(*)(*), both parties wants total control over your lives so they can force their corporate friends products on you through their stupid government programs. The big corporations never supported a Libertarian because they know that Libertarians would break up they government clubs... Freedom is the most important.. Ones you loose your freedoms you will pay hell to get them back. Freedom is the most important ingredient of the economy and not the "equality" welfare bull(*)(*)(*)(*)... Just look at the European experiments in the 1900s its speaks for it self unless you are blind or purposely ignoring it..

 

Well, that's quite typical. Defend the super rich no matter what they do and rail against the government. All hail the super fat cat at any cost. I got it.

 

Capitalism puts human creativity to the service of humanity by respecting and encouraging entrepreneurial innovation, that elusive factor that explains the difference between the way we live now and how generation after generation after generation of our ancestors lived prior to the nineteenth century.

The innovations that have transformed human life for the better are not merely scientific and technological, but institutional, as well. New business firms of all kinds voluntarily coordinate the work efforts of enormous numbers of people. New financial markets and instruments connect the savings and investment decisions of billions of people twenty-four hours a day. New telecommunications networks bring together people from the corners of the world. New products offer us opportunities for comfort, delight, and education unimaginable to previous generations. Those changes have made our societies in countless ways dramatically unlike all human societies that have preceded them.

Capitalism is not just about people trading butter for eggs in local markets, which has gone on for millennia.

It’s about adding value through the mobilization of human energy and ingenuity on a scale never seen before in human history, to create wealth for common people that would have dazzled and astonished the richest and most powerful kings, sultans, and emperors of the past. It’s about the erosion of long-entrenched systems of power, domination, and privilege, and the opening of “careers to talent.” It’s about the replacement of force by persuasion.6 It’s about the replacement of envy by accomplishment.7

It’s about what has made my life possible, and yours.

 

We don't class them as the "super rich" as if they're a separate, special group. They are individual citizens like everyone else - their wealth is irrelevant. What is NOT irrelevant is the government taking too much power.

The Rich are part of "We the People" as much as anyone else - we should be suspicious of the people with power, not each other.

 

I humbly disagree......Sir.

 

That looks good on paper. Unfortunately, the realities involved with the rich attaining their corporate wealth choke the life out of everyone else.

 

Great post, and right on the money, but do you think there is even one leftist/socialist here that is going to bother to use whatever viable brain cells they may have to digest those facts and come to the obvious conclusion that capitalism is the greatest economic system in the world? Btw, welcome to the forum, and I know you have the stamina and the wherewithal to join me and other Conservatives in teaching these leftists the common sense factors of life.

 

By what? by giving you a job?

 

They don't "give" anybody anything. They make MORE money off of manipulating labor to perform the tasks FOR them (at a menial wage 90% of the time).

Turn it around. How would they get MORE wealth, if they didn't pay somebody else to earn it FOR them? That whole "give a job" BS is well, complete BS. They TAKE. They "give" NOTHING.

 

You are dreaming my friend. People like Steve Jobs made ordinary people millioners and put 1000s from poor to the middle class, and not even talking about the to true multiplying effect of people who used his products to start up they own design, video or web businesses.. You are hopelessly enslaved by your dreamland were wealth grows on trees... Stay dreaming my friend!!!

 

Keep profiting my friend. Live long and prosper.

 

You obviously do not "got it" since you are misinterpreting my words. The government is the prime arbiter of corruption - the big businesses are either lackeys or just along for the ride. I am assigning culpability to both parties, but since the Fed is more powerful it is the primary enemy.

Without business, we would just have corrupt government.

Without corrupt government, business would self-correct (maybe with a little bit of 'persuasion') and develop as it should: freely, for-profit, and in a free-market economy.

 

I agree that is was a combination of labor and management as well as unions. Funny how you cherry pick what I said based on your slant and ignorance. And like it or not, it was an opportunity to stay employed at $16-$20 per hour as opposed to what they have now. Go tell them how they are better off now with nothing. The company was destroyed by all-the-above. Deal with it. It takes a special kind of idiot to cut off their nose to spite their face. Obviously that is where you reside.

I personally am enrolled in college to get my AAS degree in CIT under the TRA/TAA program we have been granted. UI paid an extra two years and my education paid for.

 

Business would "self correct"? I highly doubt that. The only "correction" that would occur would be the severe reduction in labor costs and the exponential increase in profit at the top. Gimme a break.

 

You forgot all about unions, didn't you? Unions are so powerful that they've crippled innumerable businesses in all industries. If the Fed can't be on the union bosses' side anymore, it would actually be a fair fight.

 

I had nothing to do with it. They wouldn't have had to make a decision if not for the mismanagement and incompetence of the people who walked away with millions in their greedy thieving pockets.

 

The corporate empire is basking in the light of their highest degree of wealth....EVER in history. Seems the unions didn't hurt them all that much huh? I know, I know...."but, they COULD have even MORE". I know. There can never be enough. Life's a beetch huh?

 

No, the CORRUPT corporate empire is basking in the wealth. Because they play the "yes man" game with the Fed.

 

I didn't realize there was a difference in the corrupt corporate sector and the corporate sector, and actually, there isn't. It's the other way around though. The big money OWNS the government. You can blame the government for that to a degree but, I blame the original cancer of the original corrupt source. The big money.

 

I wholeheartedly disagree. It is power, not money, to which ideologues are attracted. And that's the scary part: they aren't just greedy pigs, they're ideologues. They truly believe that "the cause, it is noble; and the cause, it is just."

 

You've let yourself get checkmated by a pawn. A free market unleashes wild predatory forces that take advantage of every opportunity, creating monopolies. The inevitable result of the anarchy of the free market leads to the monopolies taking advantage of the opportunity to take over the government. This market, which is a disguised term for the economic war of all against all, is a mindless jungle where the strongest beasts rule and the intelligent creatures have to hide from the totalitarian rule of Power and Force, the bad guys in the play Prometheus Bound. Myths tell us more about reality than Libretardian fairy tales. The government is supposed to represent the people. By accusing it of being a tool of the very power and force that you won't admit that your free market has unleashed, you also won't admit that your real motive is to make the government so weak that the people have no control over your favorite predatory beasts.

 

Yet you want us to believe the corporate fat cat cause is noble and just, do you not?

 

Again, you cut a random garment and claim it fits everyone just so.
No, as I said before, I do not think rich folks are noble and just. They're thieves, philanderers, fools, influence peddlers, and liars.
Just like the Proletariat.

 

Sounds like the government, in a much smaller way, is imitating the lifestyles of the rich. Do you actually expect us to believe that the rich do it with "their own money," or do they bloat and gloat with money they have stolen by underpaying their employees? Excessive profits = excessive taxes. To save your pampered skins, I advise you to take off your mask of earned wealth and confess that the business oligarchy is just a separate but unequal branch of anti-elitist government. We are not allowed to advocate violent overthrow of a government, so confessing that you are is the only way to be safe from hearing about your future.