Children and masking

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I had been doing that long before this plandemic, it's simply courtesy in a crowded place. Of course common courtesy is as rare as common sense.
     
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    He could pull his kids out in response to what he thinks is wrong for other kids.
     
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    That's absurd.
     
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    When the CDC and the NIH ignore their own studies something is wrong.
     
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    Apparently Cruz and DeSantis have no problem with it regarding their own kids being "forced".
     
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    I know right, how dare me think that a politician should follow the same rules for their family as they push on everyone else.

    I do not know what I was thinking, of course there is a different set of rules for a politician than for the rest of us.

    my bad
     
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    So you think the damn UNcommon sense observation that kids will have filthier mask than adults and then touch them and touch everything else is an "irrational belief"? Then you post something where someone else has done the thinking for you to ''prove it''? LOL

    So those grubby little hands touching that grubby little mask are not spreading germs? Have you a clue how cross contamination works?

    Screw Trump, he has NOTHING to do with this. YOU are the one politicizing it. Show me where your article addresses children's especially dirty mask and the inevitable cross contamination....show me that. You can't because your ''experts'' ignore the obvious.
     
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    That does seem the logical conclusion. Children likely spread any catchable illness better than adults. They go to school, get infected and bring it home.
     
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    You have no evidence that mask would have prevented it. If they are young kids, you will not get them to not touch the mask, have saliva and or snot in it, then touch their face, eyes, each other, other things.....
     
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    Yet again, liberals cannot seem to figure out how to wear a mask voluntarily. It's like, without a mandate, they just can't figure out how the masks go on their faces or something.
     
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    Of course, given how we see even many adults not wearing them properly, just watch folks constantly touch them in public. There is no denying the cross contamination factor. Yet medical science largely ignores it.

    I have no doubt they will reduce airborne droplets from the wearer. My only question is does the cross contamination negate that protection? Anyone who has ever seen the high speed photo of a sneeze can see the plumes of droplets expelled into the atmosphere. So no doubt it's helping contain that, but now it's all over the mask....that will be touched, with bare hands...

    I think a tee shirt is just as effective as the el cheapo mask, so commonly worn, in that capacity.

    As for children? I think it's detrimental to development of the very young to not see facial expressions, actually a form of communication. Not to mention the dehumanizing effect.
     
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    It is not voluntary at his kids school, why is that so damn hard for you to understand? He has said publicly it is wrong for schools to mandate mask for children....but clearly he does not really believe that, nor do you it seems.
     
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    I'm not saying mask dont offer some degree of protection but rather observing very few people can seem to wear them properly and when worn/handled improperly, they can then become problematic.

    Good luck trying to get 3 of your friends together for lunch in the same time and place, let alone trying to get the masses to use mask properly.
     
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    LOL, I understand that point.

    You realize ripping your kid out of a school and their classmates over this is absurd, right?
    You'd have to prove that he is sending his kids there solely for their mask mandate, if you want to argue he's a hypocrite.
     
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    Is it a private school?
     
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    Do you think everything you don't like is child abuse?

    Have you ever met anyone that was abused as a child?

    Do you know that these kinds of judgments cause more harm than they do good? It's because people label these small disagreements as "abuse" which often requires an investigation. That means investigators are wasting time on this while TRULY abused and/or neglected children are being hurt.

    The point is words matter and it is reckless to use them this way.
     
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    Pretty sure medical science would tell us to touch only the ear loops and never the surface of the mask, if you do touch it, you should consider your hands contaminated with whatever may be on the surface of the mask, until you sanitize/sterilize them.

    Matter of fact, I'm not only pretty sure but certain of it.
     
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    While I think abuse maybe a bridge too far, I do think the dehumanizing aspect and lack of interaction with facial expressions, does merit some concern with younger children, more in the developmental stage.
     
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    Yes, I do get that most people do not have the fortitude to do the hard thing to stand up for their principles, politicians more so than most of us.

    This same thing is happening with anti-vaxxers at my wife's work who are not even remotely religious but are refusing the vaccine on religious grounds instead of on principle.
     
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    I agree with this, and by the same token those kids are the ones least likely to wear a mask right or not touch it all the time.
     
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    I know Center Field has vowed not to speak to me again but I'd love to hear his input, if he could be so bothered...
     
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    Would you mind staying on topic?
     
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    Pretty sure spreading germs by cross contamination wont help.
     
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    That IS on topic. I assume you disagree with both of their stances regarding being ok with their kids being masked???
     
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    I'm not talking about the politics, just the fact they are sponges for cross contamination. Can you not see that?
     
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