'Children burned alive, tragic goodbyes and genocide' Assad's forces set to retake Al

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    no he did not give them arms!!!
     
  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Correct.. Obama didn't give them arms.


    Libya's military and police were all African mercenaries. They threw down their weapons and ran off.

    Gaddafi bought weapons in France, Germany and the UK in 2006-7.. He bought 2 billion dollars in weapons in Moscow in 2009-10.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It can. Goes on all over the world. We only get involved in blood soaked land whin it rests on top of oil.
     
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    He also has the blood of US service and civilians on his hands, and there are plenty of RWers that called him an ally.
     
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    Well we have proof Obama gave arms to "rebels" despite your claims to the contrary. As far as your specious other claim, we have none. How convenient.
     
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    No you didn't, but keep up the false narrative if you like.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how the U.N. does nothing to stop tragedies like the children being burned alive, but somehow they're able to spend 60% of their time passing condemnations of Israel for doing things like building apartments.
     
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    I linked to a CBS news story showing a picture of Obama signing legislation to send rebels arms. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-signs-bill-to-arm-and-train-syrian-rebels/

    And what proof of what you claim did you provide? Oh, right..........none! Thanks for outing yourself. It was real satisfying.
     
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    So where is that "false narrative" that you now agree with?
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    I did not agree with you.
     
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    I see. So I had a "false narrative" that was verified by CBS that you admitted to
    yet you did not agree with it? Which part is false, if any?
    Is it the part where Obama sends arms to "rebels" in Syria that wind up in the hands of ISIS? Or is that false also?

    Oh, now I remember. ISIS "took" those arms from rebel forces but you can't say how or verify that through any sort of independent third party.
    So in effect, Obama winds up arming ISIS, to a large degree. Or is that also not true?
     
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    Pres Obama did not arm ISIS. The onus is on you to prove so. ISIS got arms from defeating the Syrian rebels, but then ISIS and Al Qaeda also defeated the Iraqi army in battles too, plenty of those arms were acquired from Pres Bush, but Pres Bush most certainly didn't arm them.
     
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    John McCain did.
     
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    I get tired tired of constantly hearing that American
    forces only get involved militarily in nations that have oil
    reserves.
    Tell that to those that happened to have served this
    nation in Panama,Bosnia,Kosovo,Afghanistan,etc.
    Did those,and a long list of others,have one iota
    to do with said country´s oil reserves?
    This lie needs to be nipped in the bud ASAP.

    This is one major reason that America needs to become
    more and more self-sufficient and energy independent,
    less dependent on ME oil so that the absurd rumors,like
    the one above,will come to a screeching halt.
    Also lift certain unnecessary EPA restrictions,violations,
    rules and regulations.

    A government may send its forces to a nation for reasons
    of its own but those men and women in uniform,are most
    definitely not sacrificing their lives for oil.
    The honest to God truth is that the US has been looking
    out for the safety,security,and welfare of others for far too
    long and forgotten to take care of those of their own first
    and foremost.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, stability in that area IS our welfare. The Oil from the nations close by to Syria is necessary to the survival of most of Europe, and thus our own since, like it or not, we really cannot get along without them.
     
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    No he didn't. It was a bad idea to arm the rebels, I give you that, but Pres Obama, nor Sen McCain, wanted to arm ISIS/Al Qaeda.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They do this all over the Middle East...

    It's nothing new. Hardly deserving of an article, really.
     
  21. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Obamas own words...

    Global warming is the cause of the Syrian civil war.

    Do you believe that? Or do you think he is lying?
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was about winning, and winning protects American citizens.

    I know it's terrible for people who never actually see any of this...I can understand how you're one crazy article away from PTSD.

    But in my world, winning meant making the other side quit. And, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

    That's why we've lost the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan... because we were too scared to win, and thought maybe we could warm up to them with chocolate and modern amenities (neither of which, they don't want).

    Had we focused on winning, we would have won.

    But, it's a softer, weaker, more candy assed American population we have today. The blurbs and blogs shake them up to where they lose the will to win.

    Easiest way to beat America is to get people like you to give in, because you are a weak individual. Enough of 'you's' and suddenly we have an entire sector or people telling us what we should and shouldn't do despite never having seen combat and lacking any idea of exactly what is happening (except for what you read from the blogs).

    Our populace turned our military into garbage. Why wouldn't Putin do as he pleases? We won't stop him.
     
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    It does not.

    You're messing up how world war II affected US citizens with the US geo-political game of neo-colonization to gain cheap natural resources at the expense of 100.000's to even millions of foreigners.

    Sounds like an ISIS kind of mentality.

    Negative. You lost, because you lot suck and you also realized that nothing you could do would be making a profit in the long run. The US lost trillions in those wars and it still was going nowhere at all. The days you lot were able to cause a coup in Iran to violently oppress it's population with your terrorist puppet regime... to drain the country of its resources in a cheap way... just gone.
     
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    How does any group get armed, keep getting supplied, in order to wage war against a state? How much money has been spent on these groups in Syria as they try to take out assad? NOW, where does that money come from? Who provides it?

    A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way.

    Read War is a Racket, followed by Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. Only then will you understand Syria, remembering assad would not allow a pipeline to be built across Syria. He needs to be out of the way. And we have been trying to get him out of the way without sending our forces back so we use proxies. This is so clear and obvious, and yet so many people believe in the propaganda being fed them.

    Look, I could not care less if people are too stupid to understand what is going on, over there. But these same people, these same americans who could not reason their way out of a problem are dangerous here at home, as any weak brain is dangerous when reality is impossible to be perceived. And that is what worries me. People who are too easily fooled are dangerous to what is left of this Republic.

    If you are so concerned about people getting killed in the middle east, then it is your *******ned fault. It is your fault for continuing to vote for politicians who see nothing wrong with breaking international law and invade sovereign nations, tearing them apart, whether directly, or by using proxies. So, this blood is on your hands, for WHO went into the middle east, lit it on fire, and then continues to throw gas on it? Who took down Libya, Iraq, and now working hard on it with proxies to take down Syria?

    You are living in an evil empire and your idiocy supports it. For the truth is, you really in all sincerity do not give a (*)(*)(*)(*). Too involved in whether the left or the right wins an election. Too concerned with this sick tribalism which is not that much different from the tribal mentality in the middle east. The only difference is you fight with words, stupid demonstrations, for the culture here is different. But the tribalism still exists, today like never before in my life. And all the while, regardless of which tribe you are a member of, the evil empire of America continues on with its satanic actions in other parts of the world. But what are you gonna do when it is turned on you?

    The world is an evil enough place and always has been. But WHY make it worse? For in making it worse means more people die horrible deaths. And for what? Generally for power, or money, sometimes both. And our actions in the middle east, our tax money, our siding with the Saudis is as much to blame as anything else. Our politicians are insane, and the people who keep putting them back into office are just as insane. So wanting to think you are not responsible for this evil is nonsense. But I do understand why we want to blame others, and if not for our actions in the middle east for a very long time, you probably could. But given this, you are in no way innocent. You are as guilty as sin, just as the german citizen was guilty under hitler. But you can bet your arse they sure as hell did not see it that way when they were living under him. Same as you.
     
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    Excuses. This Administration armed who I consider enemy combatants to the Union, and it did so under the pretense of removing the Assad regime. Which not only failed spectacularly but resulted in bloodshed over an entire continent. Obama's legacy is to be our Neville Chamberlain. Worthless president.
     

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