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It's also religious folks who want to make me drink. I happen to be against both parties.

I think that is the best example of an off topic post I have ever seen. So, you are against people with a clean penis, or just the African ones?

 

Pointless blather and superceded by
Pew surveys done fifteen years later.

 

There may be some, as there are hatred and bigotry towards atheists or those who do not walk the Christian line in public, but I believe the discussion is more on the lines of the hypocrisy of claiming one belief over another then acting like something else all together. Just me I guess. I find these discussions fascinating, but rather boring when either side gets too emotionally detached.

 

I agree.... Mine was a tongue in cheek response to illustrate the petty bitterness non-Christians hold, yet try and judge others for.



FWIW - I believe my grandfather to have been one of the hating, super-judgemental Christians that many on here think ALL Christians are today. There are probably plenty of them still around (since my grandpa is still alive, that sorta proves they do still exist) My uncle no-showed my brother's second wedding because it was a second wedding. My uncle may not be as crass as my grandfather was though. My grandfather would have made a big production out of his protest, while my uncle quietly didn't come. BIG difference I think has to do with generations.


I would never go to a church with a bunch of my 'grandfathers' in the church. And if I thought all Christians were like him, I probably wouldn't be Christian. But I am intelligent enough to know I find a church that won't judge.

divorced, white, black, homeless, poor, rich.... and yes, even gay, are openly accepted. What I see is gays refuse to come in to a 'regular' church based on preconcieved notions created by a past generation.

just because I openly would openly accept a gay into my church, does not mean I accept their lifestyle or approve it. It just means they are just as entitled to hear the Word as I am, despite their past, or present.

 

It is their responsibility to spread the Good News.

But they cannot make you do believe in God if you don't want to.

 

Of course they can't. But what they CAN do is try and pass laws telling me what I can and cannot do in accordance with their thoughts regarding what their invisible sky god supposedly thinks about something.

 

I hope not.

Libs worry about Christians who are not bothering anyone while secular government intrudes in our personal lives more and more every day.

I know this suggests the issue of abortion and a woman's right to choose but even there liberals dismiss the right to life of helpless babies as if they were nothing.

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Libs pass laws based on their secular beliefs and those laws also tell us what we can and cannot do.

 

Very true and you don't have to believe in one if you don't want to. But if there is one, we'll know soon enough.

 

as a teacher, I had to explain smegma to an 8th grade boy because his parents weren't there to explain it to him. The fact I even had to speaks volumes to the ills of society.

a 6th grade boy in foster care in my class this year constantly smells like he crapped his pants. While I'm sure he didn't literally crap himself, I do think he has issues properly cleaning himself. While I haven't had a conversation with this boy.... a "teacher" is eventually going to have to since it's obvious his parents have dropped that ball a long time ago.


How well do you think you'd test out on standardized testing sitting in 4 day old underwear in your own crap? How well do you think I can teach a boy math when he's sitting in 4 day old, crap filled underwear?

 

Well, you are not addressing "libs". You are addressing me. And I've never once complained about Christians who are not doing anything. Actually, I don't complain about anyone who is not doing anything, Christian or not.

Going way off topic again, eh?

 

Hence why religious have no respect for life. They believe in an after life.

 

you don't think atheists do the same thing? Religion has been made illegal throughout history. Don't say you're Christian and try to evangelize in CHina today?


for every non-believer killed in the Crusades.... you can bet there was an equal # of (insert religion of choice here) killed by non-believers.


Killing for Crusades bad.
feeding Christians to lions ok.


seems to be the mindset of most atheists

 

That had to have been pleasant.

I think the system for choosing foster parents needs some work.

 

You were companying about Christians who exercise their constitutional right to participate in government when you wrote:

That is the essence of self government and you want to exclude Christians from the process.

 

why I respect life, as a Christian, is someone may kill someone else that would have become born again at a later point, had they not been killed.

That, to me, is much more heinous crime (eternal damnation) than a cutting a finite life short.

 

I was talking about the U.S. And there are Christian churches in China. I've seen them. But yes, they can get a little heavy handed. But that has more specifically to do with being totalitarian than atheist. They demand allegiance to the state first and religion can get in the way of that. Not that I condone it, of course, but they are not doing it to promote "atheist beliefs" (whatever the hell those are).

 

I never said they should be excluded from "self government" (we don't really have that, so I had to put it in quotes). I simply said I dislike when they try and pass laws telling me what I can and cannot do in accordance with their thoughts regarding what their invisible sky god supposedly thinks about something.

 

Just saying that over and over doesn't make it so.

 

I explained my position to you in post #184, which you have not responded too.

 

I dislike when libs pass laws based on their equally disagreeable views of the world.

 

And you are free to do that.

 

Actually what you did was say was that most people in Latin America are ignorant, with no morals and no respect for life. Those are your words on this very forum.

You then went on to pretend that there aren't that many Christians in countries like Spain and Italy, because admitting to what is an undeniable fact would mean that the vast majority of Spanish and Italian people again have no morals and no respect for life (according to your assertions) but with the added inconvenience of you not being able to use your racist they are just ignoramuses from third world countries that don't know any better so they don't count reasoning.

 

Thanks.

I exercise that right to the utmost possible.