Christian in Syria

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  1. katsung47

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    US says Saddam is a dictator and activated a war on Iraq. As a result, Islamic extremist control Iraq and Iraq Christian suffered severe persecution. They escaped to Syria. Now US says Assad is a dictator and ..... Poor Christians, where will they go this time?

    Quote, "The price of regime change
    By David Warren, Ottawa Citizen

    There are millions of Christians in Syria, who probably have the Russians and Chinese to thank that they may live there a little longer. The Security Council vetoes, a fortnight ago, on a resolution calling upon Syria's dictator to step down, and supporting an Arab-sponsored plan to "end the violence," put paid to any immediate prospect of western intervention.

    The outrage expressed by Hillary Clinton, William Hague, and other western foreign ministers, probably concealed a little relief, for the vetoes provided the excuse they needed to avoid the issue, while continuing to posture about "humanitarianism" and "democracy."
    …….


    Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.

    When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?


    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/price+regime+change/6173293/story.html
     
  2. Abu Sina

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    Exactly

    there was a Syrian priest on TV last week wanting Assad to stay and was fearing his community from the spread of the Wahabi fanatics.

    It's amazing as I said last week that the West is desperately trying to have these Saudi wahabi fanatics all over the region causing chaos.

    Makes no sense at all does it that the West should support this next threat to Christians.
     
  3. RiseAgainst

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    Of course it makes sense. The United States, and the west, are run by a religion called secularism, or secular humanism. The people who really control things hate Christians as much as Muslims. They despise all religion but their own.
     
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    aren't they controlled by the right wing Jews and Christians?

    Isn't AIPAC the one who controls Obama this week like a puppet with their hand up the back of his jacket moving his lips.
     
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    You are not thinking like Sherlock Holmes .
    Put it this way ,
    As it seems so strange and unlikely ( your position) , what circumstances provide a meaningful explanation ?
    Investigate theories containing some or all of the following:-
    Oil
    One State
    Agreement
    Proxy aid .
    Ice Cream -- for later .
     
  6. Abu Sina

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    The ONLY one who has benefited out of the decades of war AND terror is Saudi kings pockets!

    Everyone else is bankrupt as he paints gold leaf on his bedroom walls and to keep the US happy every so often buys some jet fighters from their factories

    Think about it

    NO ONE has benefited more than Saudi kings pocket

    Why would he want to end it
     
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    Christians don't control anything in America. We are demonized and ridiculed at every opportunity. What is Israel? A religious state? It is a jewish secular democracy ruled by man, never God, #1 tourist destination for homosexuals. Not today my friend, no religions control the West.
     
  8. Abu Sina

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    well you need to talk to the Christians about that who say Israel has to be there for them to get to heaven
     
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    Okay...

    What say do the Christians have? People can believe what they want but religious prophecy is NOT why the United States backs Israel.... Obama is an Atheist narcissist he backs Israel completely more than previous presidents.

    Back on topic, my government is willing to endanger Syrian Christians because they do not value their lives. The "Syrian Free Army" have pledged to end ties with Iran when in power....
     
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    Why say , "The only One ..... "
    Saudi and the US benefit because it suits them well at this point to share a bed .
    If a few Christians get bumped off along the way ... so what .
    It is a dying Religion ---- Thank God !!! (A US , Kop tic out)
     
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    Hahahaha.. and Debka reports that Saudi Arabia will seize the Euphrates Valley from Syria in order to create a buffer Sunni state there.

    http://samsonblinded.org/news/?s=debka
     
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    And your problem is ..... ?
    Are you saying there is no agreement that , it makes best present US and Saudi sense for the Middle East to be Sunni ?
    Or do you not believe that Iran setting up Shiite training camps in southern Iraq is coincidence ?
    Perhaps listening to specialist Debka reports will help you out . Very useful source tool .
     
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    Saudi Arabia has NO ambitions in Syria or Iran.. They have more than they can say grace over.. They don't want to take their oil, or convert the Shia or rule over them.

    DEBKA is playing you like a cheap fiddle.

    http://samsonblinded.org/news/?s=debka
     
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    "Though the Wahabi movement had thus, at the summit of it's power, subdued the whole peninsula with blood and arms and filled the courts of Stambouli and Teheran with terror, it already bore within it the germ of decay.

    The heaping up of countless treasures in the capital necessarily induced a corruption of simple customs-luxury,favouritism, and pride were the order of the day.

    As an example Sa'ud was not ashamed to wear a gold embroidered mantle worth two hundred thousand piastres."


    Professor Julius Euting
    (describing the Wahabi Empire at it's zenith)
     
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    Piastres? LOLOL

    There are no Wahhabis in Syria..
     
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    please convert for us then what 200,000 piastres in early 1800's would be equilvalent to today

     
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    Professor Julius died in 1913 .. and the Al Saud were poor as dirt until the 1950s.. Try again. Back then Arabia wasn't using Piastres............

    I notice that you are now consistently avoiding links to your cut and pastes.
     
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    It's America who is always on the Fiddle .
    Saudi's and the US want the Sunnis in charge of the ME and in their position I would do exactly as they are doing .
    It won't take long for the American Special Forces to create that Humanitarian corridor with their excellent short term allies , Al Qaeda .
    With the SAS there to oversee your bumbletons , things should progress nicely .
     
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    Don't assume and guess Margot

    No cut and paste here

    I typed that text from a book I am reading.

    You can check it out yourself

    The Kingdom
    Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud
    by
    Robert Lacey


    Chapter 32
    King Saud

    page 299


    Now where is YOUR proof there are no Wahabis in Syria? :wink:

    oh and you still did not answer what 200,000 piastre would be todays value
     
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    I have read the Kingdom several times... but I have loaned my copy out.

    You have a desperate need to blame the Saudis or the US for everything that is happening in the ME..

    Its comical and somewhat pathetic because that would mean the Egyptians are weak and perfect fools.
     
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    no Margot

    weak maybe but fools never

    I have been right all along

    Just go back and read your Libya posts as an example
     
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    Khadafi was a delusional moron, Abu.. who threatened to assassinate Arab rulers everytime he made a social gaffe.

    The people were sick of him.

    Quit playing the victim.. You wanted Mubarak gone and you accomplished that.. so now what?

    Are you going to take welfare money from the GCC and blame the US and the Saudis instead of cleaning up your act and writing a Constitution?

    Out of 65 million Egyptians how many are Wahhabis? LOLOL
     
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    The Spice girls were Wannabees , if that helps .
     
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    Christian was better under Saddam's rein.

    Qluote, "Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein
    • Michael Ireland, Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
    • Tuesday, July 01, 2008

    July 2, 2008

    BAGHDAD (ANS) -- The Reverend Canon Andrew White, affectionately known as The Vicar of Baghdad, says the situation for Christians in Iraq is "clearly worse" than under the Saddam Hussein regime, toppled by US and Coalition forces in 2003.

    In a segment of the CBS news program 60 Minutes, originally broadcast on Dec. 2, 2007, updated June 26 and aired on June 29, 2008, correspondent Scott Pelley asked Canon White: "You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better? Which was worse?"

    "The situation now is clearly worse” than under Saddam, White replied.

    "There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then," he told Pelley. "Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now."

    http://www.crosswalk.com/news/relig...s-now-than-under-saddam-hussein-11578523.html
     
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    Yep.. before Bush's war there were about 50 churches in Baghdad.

    The church directory by address is online.
     

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