Christian in Syria

katsung47 · Nov 15, 2012

The plight of Syria's Christians: 'We left Homs because they were trying to kill us'

In the civil war, they have tried to stay neutral. But despite this, many are now facing persecution and death

Kim Sengupta

Al-Qaa, Lebanon Friday 02 November 2012

The car may have been the reason why the 23-year-old student was ambushed and taken hostage, along with a female friend, as they were travelling to a shopping complex. The revolutionary fighters with Kalashnikovs who led them away subjected Mr Bedrosian – blindfolded and tied up – to savage beatings and threats of execution before the pair was finally freed in exchange for a ransom.

Or there may have been a different reason for the attack: they were targeted by the Sunni Muslim rebels because they were Christians. Mr Bedrosian did not wait long to find out, leaving – along with his brother – for Lebanon. Others from the Syrian Armenian community followed, abandoning their homes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ause-they-were-trying-to-kill-us-8274710.html
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Christian - The victim of Western's policy.

Abu Sina · Nov 15, 2012

katsung47 said: ↑

Christian - The victim of Western's policy.
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of course that was the plan didn't you know

create sectarian strife as much as possible

an old Mubarak tactic

katsung47 · Dec 1, 2012

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

General Wesley Clark:

Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"

[video=youtube;9RC1Mepk_Sw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=player_embedded[/video]
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So all these were hoaxes. Arab spring, Libya regime change, Syria unrest….. all done by the CIA for the war plan of the US planned.

katsung47 · Dec 1, 2012

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

General Wesley Clark:

Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"

[video=youtube;9RC1Mepk_Sw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=player_embedded[/video]
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So all these were hoaxes. Arab spring, Libya regime change, Syria unrest.. all done by the CIA for the war plan of the US planned.

katsung47 · Dec 14, 2012

US and Zionist thugs murder people of Syria and claim that Syrian army "killed them"

http://russianfreedomforum.lefora.com/2012/12/04/us-and-zionist-thugs-murder-people-of-syria-and-cl/
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They kill then blame on others.

katsung47 · Dec 28, 2012

Rebels threaten to storm 2 Syrian Christian towns
By By BASSEM MROUE | Associated Press – 12/22/2012

BEIRUT (AP) — Rebels have threated to storm two predominantly Christian towns in central Syria if residents do not "evict" government troops they say are using the towns as a base to attack nearby areas.

http://news.yahoo.com/rebels-threaten-storm-2-syrian-christian-towns-111223888.html
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A secular country will become an extreme-Islamist country under US support.

skeptic-f · Dec 30, 2012

The Christian community has consistently leaned toward supporting the Assad regime for decades and as a result has received a few crumbs from the Alawite table. This has now come back to haunt them in the conditions of a civil war that now exists. At best their lot in the aftermath of a rebel victory will be a bitter one; it could be much worse than that.

Abu Sina · Dec 31, 2012

A hard-line Wahhabi cleric in Saudi Arabia has recently issued a special religious decree that permits the militants in Syria to engage in short-term marriages with Syrian women.

Sheikh Mohammed al-Arifi said that the marriages between the foreign-backed militants and Syrian women will satisfy the militants’ sexual desires and boost their determination in killing Syrians.

He added that the marriages, dubbed by him as “intercourse marriages,” can be with Syrian females as young as 14 years old.

He also promised “paradise” for those who marry the militants.
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The Saudis are in Jordan marrying up the young girls in the refugee camps in their short term marriages!!

They really are sick!

Abu Sina · Dec 31, 2012

ah!!!
It just occurred to me after posting that!

That explains the rise in Saudi's in Egypt right now!

Abu Sina · Dec 31, 2012

More orphans filling our orphanages next year!

Jeannette · Dec 31, 2012

katsung47 said: ↑

So all these were hoaxes. Arab spring, Libya regime change, Syria unrest.. all done by the CIA for the war plan of the US planned.
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Clark is a Democrat, a supporter of the Clintons and Obama. Of course he would say this before an election. The Democrats love to say what ever they can in order to come into power. They are completely indifferent to the harm they are doing to the U.S. when it's picked up by foreign newspapers.

Now Clark knows (*)(*)(*)(*) well that Hillary Clinton agreed with Bush about Iraq before the invasion. Everyone on the foreign relations committee was shown the information about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Later on the head of the CIA was brought before the Senate and questioned. They know very well that Bush didn't lie but it wasn't beneficial for them politically to say so. There are even videos showing Hillary agreeing with Bush before the invasion, and videos showing her against the invasion later on. Of course all this only proves the stupidity of their followers.

The Democrats also know that the information given to the CIA was faulty, but in order to get elected they lied, lied, lied, and then said that Bush lied. What's even more amazing is that Russia said at the time that Saddam Hussein chartered Russian planes and had probably moved them to Syria. So now we have the West panicky because the rebels might get the chemicals and biological weapons that came from Iraq, which supposedly is non existent.

katsung47 · Jan 15, 2013

Jeannette said: ↑

Clark is a Democrat, a supporter of the Clintons and Obama. Of course he would say this before an election. The Democrats love to say what ever they can in order to come into power. They are completely indifferent to the harm they are doing to the U.S. when it's picked up by foreign newspapers.

Now Clark knows (*)(*)(*)(*) well that Hillary Clinton agreed with Bush about Iraq before the invasion. Everyone on the foreign relations committee was shown the information about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Later on the head of the CIA was brought before the Senate and questioned. They know very well that Bush didn't lie but it wasn't beneficial for them politically to say so. There are even videos showing Hillary agreeing with Bush before the invasion, and videos showing her against the invasion later on. Of course all this only proves the stupidity of their followers.

The Democrats also know that the information given to the CIA was faulty, but in order to get elected they lied, lied, lied, and then said that Bush lied. What's even more amazing is that Russia said at the time that Saddam Hussein chartered Russian planes and had probably moved them to Syria. So now we have the West panicky because the rebels might get the chemicals and biological weapons that came from Iraq, which supposedly is non existent.
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Sorry, it's not about Republican or Democrats. They all work for one master- the inside group (D.O.D. and D.O.J.) What they want is war and profit and power.

WMD is only an excuse.

Iraq's WMD - Made in America

The US government had been selling WMD to Iraq since Ronald Reagan was President, and probably for even longer. Until at least as late as George Bush's presidency, the USA continued to arm Iraq with nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.

American exports to Iraq, with the full knowledge and approval of the US government, included regular shipments of anthrax, botulism, West Nile fever, brucella melitensis, and other materials used in germ warfare. Other routine shipments included chemical warfare agent precursors, detailed plans for chemical weapons production facilities, chemical and biological warhead filling equipment, as well as delivery systems, missile production equipment and missile guidance systems.

WMD shipments from the US to Iraq continued long after the mass gassing of Kurds in Halabja, 1988; an incident which US intelligence blamed on Iran at the time, but the story was revised to make Saddam Hussein the evil-doer not long before the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0504

BBC News, "'Little new' in Iraq declaration", 19 December 2002.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2589149.stm ]
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katsung47 · Jan 29, 2013

Syrian Rebels Ransack Christian Churches

NATO-backed thugs desecrate places of worship

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Shocking images have emerged which show the aftermath of Christian churches ransacked by NATO-backed Syrian rebels, illustrating once again how western powers are supporting Muslim extremists in their bid to achieve regime change in the middle east.

A photograph provided to us by a Christian woman in Homs, scene of some of the bloodiest clashes of the conflict, shows a member of the Free Syrian Army posing with a looted Catholic cross in one hand and a gun in the other while wearing a priest’s robe.

http://www.infowars.com/syrian-rebels-ransack-christian-churches/

Abu Sina · Jan 30, 2013

This has been going on since day one.

My question is why is the US and West supporting the Saudi funded Wahabi jihadists who threatened to kill the infidels and burn the churches which are running around wild now and even being supported by the West?

I mean it's not as if the West don't know who they are who is funding them and what their goal is.

Marlowe · Jan 30, 2013

Abu Sina said: ↑

This has been going on since day one.

My question is why is the US and West supporting the Saudi funded Wahabi jihadists who threatened to kill the infidels and burn the churches which are running around wild now and even being supported by the West?

I mean it's not as if the West don't know who they are who is funding them and what their goal is.
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If you think Western Govt + its ZioNazi allies care about people , even if fellow Christians, you're mistaken, The tactics - AFAI can tell, is to cause/instigate - fan gthe flames -of as much havoc/chaos in that region, to minimize - neutralize , opposition towards Israel, thus enable Israel to continue ts expansion and suppressing of non-jewish Palestinians.

THe strategy being , by keeping the pot boiling in Middle East (Arab World ) it a handicap /keeping them from economic development - thus too weak to oppose Israel plus being a distraction of the population AT HOME , while bankers + the fincial elite (incl,disproportion number of Jews - reap the profits.

In the West , govts care more about Jews than abt Christian Arabs.

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DennisTate · Feb 4, 2013

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Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.

When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/price+regime+change/6173293/story.html
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Excellent question katsung47!

Some of us have been tossing around some ideas on what perhaps could be done??!!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7674780/
Flight of Christians from Mid-East Reaches Syria, What can you and I do?????

katsung47 · Feb 13, 2013

Chomsky, US a Top Terrorist StatePosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:43 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fQPOsOxdxnE

When the top terrorist want to punish disobedient rulers, they always find an excuse such like: for democracy, for freedom..... and the targets will be titled as: dictators, tyranny...... They monopolize the news release. You have to listen to what they want you to hear.

DEA makes living on drug case. FBI makes living on terror case. Without these cases, they lose value to exist. So if there is none, they create one.

To expand their power, DEA invented "War on drugs"; FBI and Pentagon invented "War on Terror". Under those two wars, drug business and terror activities become prosperous. So are the DEA, FBI and Pentagon. They got fat budget and expanded power - Patriot Act and NDAA.

PropagandaMachine · Feb 13, 2013

The US has a moral dilemma because they think if they don't help what appear to be the "good guys" that that is worse than doing nothing and letting the situation play out. This is because they are the most powerful country in the world and claim to support all democratic efforts everywhere. I really wish that this would stop effecting their foreign policy because real people actually get their lives torn apparent by this stuff, but unfortunately this is the way it is. Russia and China don't have this problem because they don't really pretend to be something they are not.

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