Christian in Syria

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  1. Diogenes Lantern

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    The first time I heard of this "theory" it was told to me by a Russian physicist who had moved to the US in my town to take a good job with a University.

    anyway, he explained it to me and I just could NOT follow the logic to it. it was way over my head.

    And I still can't see it. Human rights are at stake and people "profit" by it for what - 60 years and counting?

    I don't get it. And I never will
     
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    Talk about prejudice,,, I recall in the UN led invasion of Iraq in the 1990's, an American politician explaining how great the Kurds in Northern Iraq were, and later in his talk on a TV show, saying how BAD the Kurds in Northern Turkey are.

    Why? Because the Kurds in Iraq were helping the US cause - defeat Iraq, while the Kurds giving Turkey a hard time were hurting a US ally, Turkey! LOL

    and this man went on to say that the US government was considering giving the Kurds in norther Iraq their autonomy to reward them for their help and cooperation but that would be bad because if they did that, the Kurds in Northern Turkey would also want their autonomy, and that is bad for Turkey, a US ally, so it is BAD!

    LOL!!

    and I wonder how many lame-brain Americans sat there listening to this baboon without realizing that they are all the same people, they're the KURDS!

    good lord.


    I have long since come to the conclusion, of course, that politicians SUCK
     
  3. Mayerling

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    Unfortunately none of us needs to get it and it doesn't need to be logical.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep mentioning Palestinians, and how they were thrown out of their land, and yet ignore the millions of non Muslims that have been forced out of the Near and Middle East in the past century...not to mention the centuries before that. Even now a Christian boy was mutilated and killed so that the Christians will get frightened and leave. This is how the Near and Middle East that was all Christian at one time, became occupied by Islam.

    The problem with that part of the world is not the Jews or the Christians, it's Islam. It's Islam that fills their hearts with hate and revenge so that they can't get on with their lives the way the rest of the people in this world can. Just look at how they continually harp on Israel because of the Palestinians, while the rest of the refugees in this world have settled into a new life. That pseudo satanic faith should be destroyed once and for all, so that the people under it can be free to live their lives the way the rest of the world does.

    As for the attrocities committed against Christians, the reason they are not blasted all over the newspapers, is because the press doesn't want to arouse the American people. I don't know why, after all if we're going to go to war, well then best we do it for a moral cause and to protect people from Islam, than doing it for the economic benefit of the world. I mean we have enough land, oil and initiative to feed this country, and we can live without all our extra amenities.
     
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    Must you use that giant font? Its so RUDE.

    Arab Jews left in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.. Another victim of European Zionism.
     
  7. Jeannette

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    Sort of like when they kept saying the Kurds in Iraq were good, and the Kurds in Turkey were bad. My favorite is the one about Assad's WMD that came from Saddam Hussein. They're all in agreement about that now. .. but hey, didn't the Democrats say it was a lie concocted by George W. Bush so he could go to war?:confuse:
     
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    jeannette , I consider myself fortunate in having had the opportunity to workd/visit a few countries with a Muslim majority and there after , reading more abt inter-religions relations between the various people of the Levant .

    I've NOT come across any evidence which disputes the facts , that the main/only reason behind the current unrest/conflicts in that area was AFTER the arrival of Europe's Ashkenaiz Zion ists with their predertimed plans to establish Herzl's DER JUDENSTAAT in a land which at that time had a non-Jewish majority (thnically cleansed it ) to replace it with a Jewish majority. Zionists gangs used terrorism to displace/disposses Non-Jewish Palestinians.

    Before the influx of Zion ists Jews , Sephardim/Mizrahim (arabized Jews = all over the Middle East ) lived peacefully alongside the Muslim + Christian Neighbours.

    Whe a Rabbi tell me that his grandmother living in an Arab neighbourhood , Zion ist invasion , was baby-sitting with her Arab freinds , when a Jerusalemite tells me I've been lied to by the Zionists + zionists defenders have been lying to me , I'm prepared to examine what they have to say .

    start here and please listen closely .:

    [video=youtube;hNPGl8rxOVU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNPGl8rxOVU[/video]



    Zionism is the root of the current unrest.


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  9. Marlowe

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    Jeannette , in thirty -forty years time , when it no longer matters, all shall be revealed..

    Hang around long enough and you'll come to know what's been done in your country's , name..

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  10. Jeannette

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    Excuse me Margot, why are you deliberately misquoting me in your post? Isn't changing a person's quotes against the rules of the forum? How about a little honesty here, oh that's right, I forgot about takiyya? It's allowed, isn't it?

    As for the Jews leaving in those years, you didn't say from where they left, since it definitely wasn't from Israel? You must be talking about the Jews that were kicked out by Nassar and the other Arab leaders?

    As for my font, strange you would complain about it when you yourself have used a large font as well as other posters on the forum. Anyway I find it much more readable, don't you? :reading::
     
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    I didn't change a word of your oversized, rude post.

    The Arab jews trickled out of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Yemen and Algeria..

    I am flabbergasted that you have such strong opinions and so little education... and that you offend this forum with giant font.
     
  12. Jeannette

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    Of course Israel is the root of the unrest with the Muslims in the Middle East, but by the same token Hinduism is the root of the unrest with the Muslims in Kashmir, and Christianity is the root of the unrest with the Muslims in the Caucasus, in the Phillipines, in the Balkans and in parts of Africa.

    Are you suggesting then that all faiths should be under Islamic domination for peace? :confuse:
     
  13. Jeannette

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    And I'm flabbergasted with your lies. :spin:
     
  14. Marlowe

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    jEANETTE , I'd have thought you'd know better than making daft comparisons.

    No two conflicts are alike., besides , from observations, I do not believe that observent religionists / the pious obervers/followers of their faith conflict with others, however I acknowledge that their respective belief systems make powerful weapons + are used in power struggles/ gaining control over others.

    lets not ignore the fact how religions/belies are hijacked . Zionism is not Judaism / Indian Nationalism is NOT hinduism - along those lines taking a closer look at the unrest in Caucsus/Philipines/Kashmir/NBalkans etc. and you might learn its more to do with group/tribal/national - political dominance than religious differences.

    btw - FYI -for my sins (wink) , I'm a DONT KNOW - a sort of agnostic.


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    J - nette , before accusing others of lying , perhaps you should counter whatever the other person said with a few facts preferable from an impartial source , do you think you can do that ?


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  16. Jeannette

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    And yet, the one common factor in all these conflicts is Islam. I'm sure of course that if the Muslims were allowed to prosper the way people do in other faiths, then I'm positive there wouldn't be that much of a conflict with Israel...but are they allowed to? After all people with jobs and hopes for their future, aren't going to die in order to take back some Islamic holyland. So who exactly is keeping them in that dire situation, it certainly can't be Israel? :confuse:
     
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    Margot I apologize for calling you a liar, and saying you misquoted me. I did find the post finally, and realize that I did use the words 'pseudo satanic faith' out of anger for the mutilation of a Christian boy. :oops:
     
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    Ah, but it is belief that fake Israel is Biblical Israel that drives the deluded Christians to support the self professed Israelis in both their invasion and occupation of Palestine which is part of Syria.

    And, it is Talmudism that drives both the Judaized Christians and Muslims to react to each other. violently.

    Talmudized Muslims kill Christians, and relieve the Pharisees of guilt for murdering "nature's God". And, Christians support their enemies and slay their friends.

    The demise of the Orthodox Church since the conquest of Syria in the early 7th Century, reveals that the Orthodox Church has been handicapped by something, and that is the leaven of the Pharisee in their thinking and actions.

    If they don't wise up real quick, they will go down the drain of this Saudi/Israeli "Muslim Revolution" that has already taken North Africa, and is trying to take the whole Middle East. All that's left to fall is Greece, Europe, Russia and USA. If you survive the conflicts, the conquest may finish you off unless someone wants you for his right hand.
     
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    if the rebels shell your city for long enough, if AQ and Christian jihadist brigades are moving into your house then eventually you would leave too

    The uprising was small and in only 2 locations for a very long time.

    The majority Syrians did not support it. Check the timeline.

    It all changed when the Americans the Saudis and Qataris started to get involved.
     
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    Those Saudis have judiciously managed their oil income, generously funded other less fortunate Arab states and invested in health care , education, clean water, power plants, roads, dams, housing.

    Bitter pill for you, Abu.....
     
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    NATO is accomplice.

     
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    NATO is accomplice.

     
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    Christians 'emptied from Middle East'

    Rowan Callick

    October 06, 2012

    THE mother superior of a 1500-year-old monastery in Syria warned yesterday during a visit to Australia that the uprising against Bashar al-Assad has been hijacked by foreign Islamist mercenaries, with strong support from Western countries.

    Mother Agnes-Mariam de la Croix was forced to flee to neighbouring Lebanon in June when she was warned of a plot to abduct her, after she revealed that about 80,000 Christians had been "cleared" by rebel forces from their homes in Homs province.

    She described on the website of the Greek-Melkite Catholic monastery of St James, the church she rebuilt 18 years ago after discovering it in ruins, how Islamist rebels had gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya in Homs. Then they blew it up with dynamite and attributed the act to the regular army.

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/...from-middle-east/story-e6frg6so-1226489418086
     
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    Western-Backed Rebels Move Against Syria’s Christian Minority

    Churches in Homs Under Constant Attack

    by Jason Ditz, October 14, 2012

    Militant factions in rebel-held cities like Homs see Christian communities as easy targets for extortion, and the more Islamist blocs regularly target their churches, damaging many and destroying others.

    Christians and other minorities have tried to form militias to protect their neighborhoods, but with the rebels awash in Western money and arms, they are simply out-manned and outgunned. As the fight continues to escalate, the groups are facing a tougher and tougher choice about whether to try to stay or to flee abroad.

    http://news.antiwar.com/2012/10/14/western-backed-rebels-move-against-syrias-christian-minority/
     

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