Christianity: the unknowable faith?

Science only stands alone when it is in the mind of man. Once the man releases that science into the temporal world, that science then becomes philosophical because it came from the mind of man.

 

Um, nope. Evolution is not a philosophy in the sense that you are implying. It simply describes a phenomenon, it makes no other implications after that fact. What it implies is for the philosophers to decide, not the science itself.

This is an observation, not a philosophy.

Organisms adapt to better fit their environment.

 

Evolution cannot be proven inside the field of science and requires the use of language that would enable a person to communicate such ideas regarding the subject of evolution. Therefore, 'evolution' is a product of the mind of man and is also a point of philosophy once it proceeds from the mind of man. Because science cannot prove evolution, then science depends upon the philosophical approach to make an appeal to the sentiments and emotions of others through that use of language. Remember, science cannot prove anything.

 

There is nothing philosophical about "Organisms adapt to better fit their environment.'.

That is an observation of nature.

It is not a philosophical observation.

Philosophy can be derived from science, art, culture, anything and everything, however that does not make science a philosophical construct. It is separate. It stands alone.

The notion of evolution being a philosophy is a poorly constructed argument for those who wish to demonize evolution as a justification for social Darwinism. Social Darwinism is something, ironically, most supporters evolution reject and deniers embrace.

 

Seemingly you do not comprehend what 'philosophy' is.
"phi·los·o·phy (f-ls-f)
n. pl. phi·los·o·phies
1. Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline.
2. Investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods.
3. A system of thought based on or involving such inquiry: the philosophy of Hume.
4. The critical analysis of fundamental assumptions or beliefs.
5. The disciplines presented in university curriculums of science and the liberal arts, except medicine, law, and theology.
6. The discipline comprising logic, ethics, aesthetics, metaphysics, and epistemology.
7. A set of ideas or beliefs relating to a particular field or activity; an underlying theory: an original philosophy of advertising.
8. A system of values by which one lives: has an unusual philosophy of life."

When you combine the two terms "philosophy" and "of", you should be able to clearly see where the philosophy is derived FROM that which is the "subject of".

In this case, it is not 'evolution' that is being observed, but rather, what already exists within nature. Any conclusions that are reached, presumptions that are made, relative to those observations of that which already exists, is purely speculative with regard to 'how those things came about'.... thus philosophy. "Evolution" is merely a concept that was generated in the mind of man and has subsequently been placed into the temporal world for further consideration and attempts at proving that 'evolution' is a fact. Nothing can be proven by science...

Yes, Science does stand alone... as long as it is in the mind of man. When man releases that science into the temporal world, then that science becomes philosophical, as it is viewed and interpreted by everyone to mean differing things... Once again... read my signature line.

 

I will concede the point.

 

Yes she did, it is one of the reasons that the Theotokos is such an important figure in the lives of the faithful in Orthodoxy:


Luke 1:35-38

34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

37For with God nothing shall be impossible.

38And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

 

Great response Crawdadr.. I have never paid any attention to that passage even though I have read it many many times. Congratulations on a most excellent post. Indeed you show the truth of the Word of God, in that the Word of God defends itself and is sharper than any two-edged sword.

 

Then I suppose I will concede that as well.

 

Organisms are doing nothing in this context - they are not adapting anything. If for example all women would decide that they like to have babies only from blue eyed men like me then the genetic material of all men with brown, grey or green eyes would disappear in the next generations. There is no adaption of organisms - the not-blue-eyed-individuals would die out in this case. You are not speaking about the theory of evolution you are speaking about social darwinism.

http://youtu.be/-lJn4-MSbP0

 

Science is somehow only another word for philosophy. The system of sciences came from Aristotle. And what means "stand alone" in the end? How is anyone able to do good physics without mathematics for example? How is someone able to think planful without intuiton? How is someone able able to create new things without inspiration? and so on ...

http://youtu.be/abO_g4_XSUM