Colo Springs nightclub shooting- stopped by bystanders

-What was your firearm murder rate before you "outlawed" guns?
-What was your firearm murder rate after you "outlawed" guns?
-Demonstrate the necessary relationship between your "outlawing" of guns and the change in firearm murder rates.

 

That you have to ask the question means you do not understand the challenge put to you.
But sure - go ahead and offer your "photos".

 

So you acknowledge that the massive punishments we give for mass shooters doesn’t stop them but one of your solutions is to increase penalties?

So basically we should do nothing?

As to the prior restraint, I have no issues with shotguns, handguns and many rifles (devices used for protection and hunting).

No one needs something that can fire an entire magazine in a few seconds.

 

Mass shootings?

 

"All bearable arms"
- USSC
Your opinion does not matter.

 

You didn't read what I wrote. Most violent criminals have long records. If they are put in prison they don't commit crimes against innocent people. Passing Laws curtails the actions of those who obey laws. Incarceration curtails the actions of those who break the laws/ If I could write the laws, I'd also bar felons from having recourse to civil or criminal courts if they are shot in the act of committing a felony. That would lead to more criminals being shot and more criminals being shot means less crime

You want to pass laws that only curtail the currency legal and harmless actions of people who don't harm others so you can pretend you are DOING SOMETHING while not harming criminals

 

most mass shootings are committed with felons using handguns. Lefties only think mass shootings involve AR 15s by people who don't have prior records because that fits their dishonest narrative

 

What a surprise.

 

what right do you have to tell me what I need? It’s not called the Bill of Needs.

 

anti gunners look at their own "needs" 'and then try to project them on to others. It is one of the most worthless arguments ever.

 

Alcohol and guns don't mix very well. How many times have we learned that.

 

you lost me when you think shooting faster is deadlier. The faster you shoot, the less you will hit. Fast shooting only works in video games. Even at fairly close ranges, if you don’t use the fundamentals, you are just wasting ammo.

 

I agree the faster one pulls the trigger the less accurate one becomes, but I don't think that was the posters theme.

 

I agree with all of this. We already have the largest prison population on Earth by a significant margin and that doesn’t seem to be working.

Look at seatbelts for instance, we saw something that was unnecessarily killing people and introduced laws to prevent it.

Did telling people they had to use seat belts infringe on liberty, one could definitely argue that. I am not even saying we need to outright ban most guns but there needs to be some common sense middle ground

 

There is no sense at all in unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.
There's your "middle ground".

 

From what I have seen on these school shootings there is less focus on individual accuracy and more on hitting as many random targets as possible

 

Because I am allowed to have an opinion and push for laws and amendments that match my opinion, especially when it is backed up by data.

 

"All bearable arms"
- USSC
Your opinion does not matter.

 

wrong.

you and no one else get to tell ME what I need. You can vote for whatever you want and say anything you like but my needs are my business. You have no “data” on my needs, and certainly none to suggest that guns cause any crimes.
It sounds like you “need” to come to terms with what is and is not your business.

 

This is what I am speaking of — look at the reaction you are having just with an individual on the internet expressing an opinion. I get less upset when people say my marriage should be invalid and my children should be taken by the state.

But since you brought it up and I am curious, why do you need to have a semi-automatic carbine rifle outside of personal enjoyment?

 

The exercise of the right to keep and bear arms is not predicated on a demonstration of need.
Your question is invalid.

 

Alcohol doesn't mix with many social situations but there are times it might be better to have one. Other wise you may just be a target.

 

What do you need to have the device you're posting on to enjoy your first amendment rights?

 

Method of communication, used for business purposes, data entry, allows me to accesses financial and personal information, medical records, tenant information… tons of reasons.

Would you care to answer my question now or do you have another question so you can avoid answering.

 

Did anyone here ever discuss how Club Q was planning an "all ages drag brunch" for the day after the shooting?