It isn't her body any more. She choose to have sex in most cases, and it is now "their" bodies until 9 months, then it becomes her body again. She chose to make it their body.
That isn't what I said at all. Not sure how you could have possibly missed what I posted. Try re-reading and get back to me on what I ACTUALLY posted. K?
I think Gloria Steinem had an interesting idea: "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." That said, if men could get pregnant, they'd be women.
No. They are not persons. They are fetuses. The prohibitionist, big government stance would make all men that masturbate criminals if you follow their bullshit logic.
ECA said: ↑ You DO realize it takes at least TWO to have sex, right? The fact that you only put blame on the woman in your above post shows the contempt you have towards women. I suspected as much but thank you for confirming. That Very Obviously isn't what he said at all.
I did read it. If the father has no say in the abortion of his child, then the "it takes 2" mantra is meaningless in the abortion debate. If the woman chooses to have sex, and if nobody else has a voice in protecting her child's life, then she bears the responsibility for her child's life.
FoxHastings said: ↑ "Or slavery" what? Slavery applies when one's right to one's own body is taken away...as Anti-Choicers wish to do to pregnant women. There is no other "their". Just one, the pregnant one.
Clearly you did not understand my post. My response was to someone putting the blame on ONLY the woman in regards to getting pregnant. That is categorically wrong. Hence my response about it 'taking two'. Try to keep up. I don't want to have to keep walking you through everything like I used to have to do when my kids where children.
ECA said: ↑ You DO realize it takes at least TWO to have sex, right? The fact that you only put blame on the woman in your above post shows the contempt you have towards women. I suspected as much but thank you for confirming. NO, what he said was it takes two to have sex. That was very clear. But you are partially correct, SHE bears the responsibility for her fetus's life....not YOU , not the government, NO one but her. You want the father to "have a voice" ? Then what do you say when he says ABORT! ????
MAGA said: ↑ Are you saying farhers should have equal voice in deciding on the life of their unborn children? So if the father says abort, you think the woman should abort????????????????
If a woman chooses to have sex it's nobody else's responsibility to stop her. Do you expect some man to put a Chastity Belt on her or what?
If a man chooses to have sex it's nobody else's responsibility to stop her. See how that works? Again...it take TWO to have sex. I get it that you have contempt towards women which is why you only want to blame the woman for getting pregnant. I dunno...maybe you don't actually know how the whole getting pregnant via sex thingy works. Here's something that might help you...https://www.storyjumper.com/book/index/15634392/The-Birds-and-the-Bees
I'm sorry. You don't believe rape victims should be able to abort. You and I have nothing to discuss on this topic.
Make no mistake, I know exactly what I'm saying. It's you that keeps trying to move the goal post. It takes TWO to have sex. Both are to blame if pregnancy happens. Not sure why you don't get that.
Yet you once again evade a simple question. Do you think a man should stop an adult woman of sound mind from having consentual sex? Yes or no?