Democrat Jamaal Bowman criminally CHARGED for pulling the fire alarm on Capitol Hill

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    No?
     
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    Bowman struck a deal with the Washington, DC, Attorney General’s office, in which he pleaded guilty to the single misdemeanor offense.
    According to the terms of the deal read aloud in court, Bowman’s sentencing will be deferred for three months. During that time, Bowman will be on probation, will pay a $1,000 fine and will write an apology letter to the US Capitol Police.
    If he fulfills these terms, prosecutors will drop the charge at his sentencing hearing on January 29.

    ^Expected resolution.
     
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    What post number here in this thread?
     
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    It was the original thread when the story came out.
     
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    You are objectivley false. He is only cooperating, and Egoboy even admitted to this, because he is going to get a slap on the wrist.

    I dont expect republicans to cooperate with a system that so openly favors dems. Dems either go completely uninvestigated, or in order to make a show of thier alleged lack of bias, they charge dems and give a slap on the wrist then pronounce themselves as unbiased and the left unwittingly allow this.

    There is no moral high ground on the left anymore, they threw that out by choosing hate over country in their corrupt pursuit of jailing political opponents over inherently subjective laws.
     
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    Cough....cough.... Bob Menendez.
     
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    Create any idea in your head you want.

    That doesn't at all refute my objectively correct claim.
     
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    Actually it proves your claim is nonsense.
     
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    No, it genuinely doesnt.
     
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    Baseless propaganda.
     
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    I'm objectively correct.
     
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    BUT...They WILL BE Dropped...
    Bowman struck a deal with the Washington, DC, Attorney General’s office, in which he pleaded guilty to the single misdemeanor offense.
    According to the terms of the deal read aloud in court, Bowman’s sentencing will be deferred for three months. During that time, Bowman will be on probation, will pay a $1,000 fine and will write an apology letter to the US Capitol Police.
    If he fulfills these terms, prosecutors will drop the charge at his sentencing hearing on January 29.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Other words, glove treatment. "Just pay a fine and we'll expunge this from your records!". Millions of Americans who went through the system, weren't quite that lucky. The judicial system is broken, and that's because it's clear that it chooses winners and losers.
     
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    So? As I think Egoboy also pointed out, this is a normal part of our prosecutorial court system. Is there something shameful, in getting a lighter sentence, by taking a plea? Do Republicans not do as much? Except, as I've already pointed out, Bowman is not pleading to a lesser class offense-- unlike some high profile pleas, lately taken by some Republican officials. He is essentially saying, "you got me."

    Just out of curiosity, what
    you think is a typical sentence, for falsely pulling a fire alarm-- six months in jail? Banishment from the country? It is a misdemeanor offense.
     
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    There was no lesser offense because he was never fully charged.
     
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    I wouldn't call this cooperating. He lied to the authorities to try to cover up his crime and the only reason he took a plea dealwas because there's video evidence of him committing the crime and lying to the authorities. If he took it to trial he would have gotten a worse punishment.
     
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    that is not charges dropped, that is pleading guilty and doing probation
     
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    How is it possible to plead to an offense, without being charged with an offense?

    I would appreciate your inclusion, in your comments, of more self-explication, so I needn't ask for details, which are obviously relevant to whatever claim you are making. Pulling a fire alarm without a fire, is a misdemeanor offense, isn't it? And Bowman pled guilty to a misdemeanor offense? And my comment, you are seemingly trying to contradict, is that Bowman was not pleading to a lower class of crime (like Republicans charged with felonies, who were permitted to plea to misdemeanors)? This makes your attempted point, seem beyond picayune; can you tell me what the detail you underline, is actually supposed to mean, in the big picture?
     
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    That is a dropped charge. His sentencing is deferred, meaning in a few months, he won't have anything on his record, and he currently has no judgment of guilt. Even though he pleaded guilty, he won't be "guilty" of anything.
     
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    I said he wasn't "fully" charged. I didn't say he wasn't charged. He allegedly lied to the authorities (Sargaent at Arms and separately, Capitol Police) while they were investigating.
     
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    yes, 1st time offender, that is normal
     
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    I'm not Cornpop, but it seems obvious to me that said poster is referring to the charge of "obstruction of an official proceeding" which was not charged but could have been based on what they charged a lot of J 6ers with. Add in the fact that he lied about it. We are really only making an issue of the obstruction because they charged a lot of J 6ers with it. Even those who entered through an open door after the obstruction had already happened were convicted of that.
     
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    Yes, the obstruction of an official proceeding could have been charged as well, but would have been a more difficult charge to prove. However, most defendants whom you have an open/shut case on are charged with everything, knowing they'll take a plea deal. The very easy charge is that he said in media interviews that he told both the Capitol Police and the House Sargaent at Arms that he was just trying to open the door to go vote and didn't realize the fire alarm would go off. However, video shows him removing the fire exit signs, pulling the alarm with one still in his hand, and through all of it he never even tried to open the door he claimed he wanted to exit through. He just turned around and left out of a door that everyone knows is normally open.
     
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    It's not normal to have everything dismissed after committing a crime and then lying to the authorities to cover up your crime... unless you're a Democrat in DC, apparently.
     
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