Democratic Party's record on Race >>MOD EDIT<<

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  1. squidward

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    so we don't have to go that far back and hear about black inequality any more ?
     
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    Does this mean you can't name a living racist Democrat?
     
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    No, it means I have throughout the thread. I have named many.
     
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    I have shown that most dixiecrats stayed in the democrat party. The democrats maintained solid control of the South into the early 1990's. The republicans do not have the single party control over any Southern states the way the democrats did for decades. Many of them have gone to democrats in presidential elections.

    The republicans aren't the "Party of the South". Who says they are? And what makes you say that Nixon and Reagan pulled away from support for civil rights and integration? Nixon's justice department actually enforced the integration laws in the South and Nixon is credited with integrating the schools of the South. He also instituted the Philadelphia Plan for Affirmative Action, one of the most comprehensive Affirmative Action plans to date. (I guess that was part of Nixon's infamous 'Southern Strategy'). I am also unaware of any of Reagan's policies that would indicate that he pulled away from support of these policies. Do you have proof of your assertions or did you just make that up?
     
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    The 1964 Civil Rights Act- tsk tsk- you keep forgetting.

    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is acknowledged as the landmark Civil Rights legislation of the modern era.

    Lets review the CRA of 1964

    John F. Kennedy called for it in a speech on 6/11/63
    Kennedy sent the bill on 6/19/63
    Introduced into the House by Emanuel Celler- Democrat from NY.
    Kennedy called Congressional leaders to the White House in October to line up the votes for passage.

    After Kennedy was assasinated President Johnson pushed for passage of the CRA in his first address to the Joint session of Congress
    "No memorial oration or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long."

    The bill passed in the House 290 to 130. How did the parties vote?
    Yes: 152 Democrats, 138 Republicans
    No: 96 Democrats, 34 Republicans.

    So- more Democrats voted for the CRA than Republicans. And more Democrats voted against the CRA than Republicans.
    And Republicans and Democrats voted against the CRA.

    Then the bill went to the Senate- where Democrats both fillibustered the bill- and Democrats(with a lot of help from Johnson) also orchestrated the end of the fillibuster.

    In 1964 the bill was signed by President Johnson.

    It is completely accurate to say that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Democrats also pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    The opposition broke down almost entirely along North/South lines

    The original House version:

    Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
    The Senate version:

    Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
    Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
    Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
    Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%

    Like I said- it is entirely correct to say that Democrats were the Party of the Confederate States, and Jim Crow.

    And it is entirely correct to say that Democrats are responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
     
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    You can deny the truth all you want.

    You haven't mentioned one Democrat who is alive and a racist.

    Not "many". Not even one. You named zero. You get the difference, right?
     
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    Michele Obama
    Barack Obama
    Joe Biden
    Harry Reid

    Those are names right? I named them in this thread and demonstrated their racism. Do you know how to use the "search this thread" function?
     
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    I had to go back and read this excellent thread. I got to this post and I had to laugh because after 50 pages I am still batting 1000.

    I have demonstrated a history of racism in the democratic party both past and present.

    I have shown that republicans supported the CRA in higher percentages than democrats.

    I have shown the republicans have a long history of supporting civil rights legislation.

    I have destroyed assertions that democrats are republicans and republicans are democrats.

    I have destroyed assertions that democrats were conservatives and republicans were liberals.

    I have dismantled theories that only conservatives are racists.

    I have proven that even iconic liberal democrat presidents like Wilson, FDR, JFK and LBJ had histories of racism or supporting racists policies.

    I have proven that Southern Dixiecrats remained in the democrat party and that democrats opposed to the CRA also remained democrats.

    I have proved that Southern democrats did not change to the republican party.

    I have proved that the so called "Southern Strategy" is a myth.

    I'm still waiting for anyone to refute any of the facts I have presented.

    I'm still waiting for anyone to present any accomplishments of the democrat party regarding race.
     
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    And what did the Democrats do after passing the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act?

    Passed the Voting Rights Act of 1965- first proposed by Lyndon Johnson, passed with Democratic and Republican support, On August 6, President Johnson signed the Act into law with Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, John Lewis, and other civil rights leaders in attendance.

    The act resulted in an almost immediate increase in African American voter registrations and votes.

    Also in 1965, Lyndon Johnson issued an executive order enforcing 'affirmative action' for government contractors.
     
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    Democrats in 1968

    President Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1968, prohibiting discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of housing.
    The bill was introduced by a Democrat, pushed through the House by the Democratic House leader and passed with a majority of Democratic votes.
     
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    Democrats moving forward with Civil Rights in 1987

    The Civil Rights Restoration Act was a U.S. legislative act which specified that recipients of federal funds must comply with civil rights laws in all areas, not just in the particular program or activity that received federal funding

    . This Act, also known as the Grove City Bill, was first passed by the House in June 1984 (375-32), but failed to pass in either chamber after divisions occurred within the civil rights coalition over the issue of abortion. In January 1988, the Senate accepted an amendment by Senator John Danforth (R-MO) which added 'abortion-neutral' language to the Bill, a move that was opposed by the National Organization for Women but which resulted in passage of the bill in both houses. Although President Ronald Reagan vetoed the Bill, as he had promised to do, Congress overrode the President's veto by 73-24 in the Senate and 292-133 in the House. This was the first veto of a civil rights act since Andrew Johnson vetoed the Civil Rights Act of 1866

    Republican President Reagan vetoed this Civil Rights bill, but the Democrats over rode his veto.
     
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    I do want to point out that the OP is correct about one thing.

    The Democratic Party was the party of the racist rebel Confederate States.

    Isn't it odd that it is the Republican Governors that want to celebrate those same racist rebel- and Democratic Confederate states?
     
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    It was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 not 68 and it was staunchly opposed by Democrats in both the House and Senate. Democrats tried to filibuster the bill. Both the House and Senate were majority Democrat and the bill passed with a majority of Democrat and Republican votes.
     
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    Once again, this act was also opposed by many democrats and received a higher percentage of republican votes than democrat votes. But since it was bi-partisan, it is hardly an accomplishment of the democrat party now is it? It is hardly an accomplishment for the democrat party to come on board with the idea of allowing black people to vote nearly 100 years after the Voting Rights Act of 1867.
     
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    And once again, it too the democrats over 100 years to allow for federal enforcement of a law passed by republicans over 100 years earlier.

    While the Civil Rights Act of 1866 prohibited discrimination in housing, there were no federal enforcement provisions. Once again, this was a bi-partisan act, but I guess if you want to give democrats credit for stopping their long history of racist acts, this was one of those "about time" moments.
     
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    Well obviously there are some questions regarding the issue of abortion it this legislation. Republicans do not consider abortion a civil right.
     
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    I don't know. You have not provided any examples of republican governors celebrating racist rebels or democrat confederates. I'm sure you are not saying republican governors of those 11 states are not allowed to celebrate their states, right?
     
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    How do you know? Do you have a set of far right goggles of white supremacy?
     
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    So....why is the Republican Party so popular now among Southern whites?
     
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    The '68 one was about fair housing. It allowed for the enforcement of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was passed in a bi-partisan vote, yet somehow that makes it an accomplishment of the democrats who have finally come around after 100 years.
     
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    The republican party is popular throughout the United States. It is as popular as the democrat party. It is popular among people of all races. I guess that is why. Do you have a reason to believe that Southern whites are all racists? Do you have a reason to believe that the GOP is racist and therefore popular among Southern whites? Can you demonstrate why you think this way?
     
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    Seems to me it really doesn't matter Democratic or Republican back in that time, the difference was the North/South idealogy. Today the same idealogy is shown as the Republican/Democratic platforms.

    Really not that hard to understand. The current Democratic party is what the Northern idealogy was, and the current Republican party is what the Southern idealogy was.
     
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    It was proposed by Democrats, introduced into the Congress by Democrats, passed with a majority of Democrats votes and signed by a Democrat President.

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    Despite the fact that African Americans and other racial and ethnic minority Americans are guaranteed the right to vote by the 15th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which was passed just after the Civil War in 1870, states and local municipalities continued to use tactics such as poll taxes, literacy tests and outright intimidation to stop people from casting free and unfettered ballots.

    During the Civil Rights activism of the 1960's, just 5 days after Martin Luther King, Jr. led the march on Selma, President Lyndon Johnson announced his intention to pass a federal Voting Rights Act to insure that no federal, state or local government may in any way impede people from registering to vote or voting because of their race or ethnicity. In 1965, President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act into law.

    Most provisions in the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and specifically the portions that guarantee that no one may be denied the right to vote because of his or her race or color, are permanent, but some enforcement -related provisions have required reauthorization over the years.

    Originally, in 1965, legislators hoped that within five years the problems would be resolved and there would be no further need for these enforcement-related provisions: however, it proved necessary to extend these in 1970, and again in 1975 and 1982. They were set to expire in August 2007, but were extended for another 25 years with the July 2007 reauthorization vote.

    The Voting Rights Act Reauthorization was passed by an overwhelming vote in the House of Representatives on July 13, 2006, and by unanimous vote in the Senate seven days later. The Voting Rights Act is widely recognized as the most effective civil rights legislation ever passed. Since 1965, the Act has enabled millions of African-American, Latino, Asian American and Native American citizens who were previously denied access to the ballot an equal opportunity to elect candidates of their choice.
     
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    I find it very interesting that you dismiss as 'too late' the Civil Rights Acts enacted once the Democrats were part of them. Even though the Civil Rights Acts that were enacted beginning in 1964 were effective legislation that was enforced.

    You asked for examples of what Democrats have done in the last 50 years. What is not surprising is that you don't like any of the things that the Democrats have done for Civil Rights.
     

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