Democratic Party's record on Race >>MOD EDIT<<

You are probably using the word "liberal" as if you were still in the 1800's, im sorry you still live in the past buddy but I dont. Liberal today means Social liberal, not libertarian. Sorry to brake the news to you.

 

I am familiar with this and more, but divisions among the parties throughout history on various issues notwithstanding, changes in party philosophies have not changed. Portrayal of demographic and geographical changes in party affiliations as a switch in ideologies is terribly misleading. Naturally changes in demographics over time will result in changing political alliances, but is not indicative of party ideological shifts or individual changes in party allegiances.

 

You do know Southern Democrats during the Civil War were heavily in favor of States Rights and Republicans were heavily in favor of Federal power? Today, it is the opposite, Republicans believe heavily in State Power and resent Federal Power, whereas Democrats resent State Power and love Federal Power. CLEARLY the two parties have switched, they even switched sides of the country its so blatantly obvious.

Tell me, do you think "Republican" is synonymous with "Conservative" and "Democrat" is synonymous with "Liberal"? It seems you are under this false impression.

 

Everybody should be in favor of "States Rights". States do have rights under the Constitution particularly when it comes to the 10th Amendment. Using that argument to retain slavery is and was wrong. That is not to say that states don't retain rights under the Constitution simply because the South used that as justification for slavery. It also does not equate the people advocate states rights today with an endorsement of slavery. You do realize that there are certain powers retained by the states do you not? This is a Constitutional REPUBLIC, without states rights we would not be.

Republicans were in favor of ending slavery but that is not to say they were heavily in favor of federal power. It took the power of the federal government to ensure and enact Civil Rights Act of the time.

Certainly Republican is not synonymous with conservative and democrat synonymous with liberal. But the party philosophies and policies over history have been conservative and liberal respectively.

 

You are using a strawman argument, I never said liberals dont want any state power and conservatives dont want any federal power. Now, with that in mind, try again.

 

I think Republicans are against tyranny, whether it is imposed by a state or a federal government. I don't believe I made any strawman argument. Just pointing out the obvious when it come to states rights. It does not mean republicans of today are the democrats of yesterday because of states rights.

 

Republicans are against tyranny.....do you know how many Republicans today think Lincoln was a tyrant? I can make a thread about it right now, most of them will say he was a tyrant who started a unnecessary war blah blah blah. Lincoln even suspended habeas corpus, a real criticism of him that can actually be argued was an act of tyranny, so there you go a republican who suspended habeas corpus......TYRANNY!!! REPUBLICAN TYRANNY!!! AHHH!!!!

 

The Constitution does allow for the suspension of habeas corpus during times of war:

And was authorized by an Act of Congress:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_1863

The South seceded before Lincoln took office.

The South started the Civil War, not Lincoln:

 

You do realize the majority of Republicans do not share these same sentiments as you right? Feel free to ask them, they refer to the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression" and claim slavery would have ended naturally and all those Americans died needlessly at the hands of Statist Northerners.

 

Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence: the question assumes something as true for which no evidence has been shown.

Gee, I can play that game. A majority of democrats love abortions and eat fetuses.

 

The democrats old KKK have been replaced with abortion doctors. Fully one third of black babies are aborted. Liberal democrats are now wearing rubber gloves rather than white sheets!!!!!!!

 

Time and again I've pointed out the racist history of the democrat party. Every time liberals defend this, excuse it, or deny it. There is no denying the truth but liberals just try to rewrite history and blame it on conservatives even though I have pointed out that these policies were carried out by liberal democrat politicians.

 

While the NAACP is condemning the Tea Party as racist, it does nothing to stop the Chicago corrupt politicians from removing a black woman Tea Party candidate from the ballot based on a faulty technicality:

 

everybody will stipulate to the fact that the ancient history of the democratic party is one steeped in southern racism. For years and years, democrats were the party of Jim Crow and the south was solid blue. That's old news and I know of no democrat who would even attempt to suggest that wasn't the true story of the early days of our party.

Times change. People change. Parties change. If the GOP were still the same party of Lincoln, they'd be getting the majority of black votes in America. If the Democratic party were still the same party of Jim Crow and strange fruit, we wouldn't be getting any.

 

Why do you ignore the previous post to yours? It was about racist democrats blocking a black woman Tea Party member from getting her name on the ballot. We are not talking just about the racist history of the democrats, we are also talking about the racist actions of the democrats today.

 

and you think that keeping Mod edit, 2 flounder off the ballot is strictly a racist thing? That's funny.

Now.... why do YOU think that blacks abandoned the party of Lincoln and now overwhelmingly support the party that once was all about Jim Crow?

 

wait for it.... wait for it.... you KNOW it's coming. It always does....

 

Angry White Guys attempting to dictate to Black Americans which political party is more racist is hilarious.

 

Thoroughly dishonest. Without constant race-baiting of the left through a megaphone for 50 years, without bigoted lie narratives about pervasive continuing racism in millions of people who are Republicans or Southerners no more prone to racism than any other groups, threads like this wouldn't even exist. You know it, I know it.

 

Apparently Cedra Crenshaw thinks it's a racist thing. I also think your use of that term is homophobic.

As for why, I don't know. Perhaps you can explain it to us?

What is coming? I don't know what you are referring to.

I really can't explain why:

- Orval Faubus secured 81 percent of the black vote after blocking the Little Rock nine from entering Little Rock High School, then closing it for a year to prevent the integration of blacks into the school even after republican Dwight D. Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne Division to enforce court ordered desegregation.

- Racist segregationist George Wallace won 25% of black votes in 1974 in his bid for re-election for Governor and 90% of black votes in his 1982 bid. This after standing in the doorway of the University of Alabama to prevent it from being integrated. He is known for having run the most racist campaigns in US history.

- Robert C. Byrd, leader of his local KKK chapter, and US Senator who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, received 98% of the black votes in several of his re-election bids. He once used the term white ni**er, no twice used it on national TV. He refused to serve in the military because he did not want to serve with a n***** by his side. His funeral was attended by President Barack Obama.

- William Jefferson Clinton received 84% of black votes in 1996 election for president. This after having awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1993 to William J. Fulbright, former senator, dixiecrat, segregationist and opponent of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Way to go Bill!

I can't explain why blacks would vote for all these racists. There are literally hundreds of other racist democrat politicians that blacks in the South and other states like West Virginia voted for, for reasons which I cannot explain to this day. Please tell me the answer if you know.

 

You are sworn to secrecy? You have no idea why blacks voted for these racist democrats!!! Even you can't explain it, yet you ask for me to explain it. That's rich. I put the challenge to any liberal or democrat to explain to everyone why blacks switched their votes to racist democrats.

 

Yeah, like this angry white guy:

[video=youtube;s-QwMUjD8xg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-QwMUjD8xg[/video]

[video=youtube;TBuAxg1zy6E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBuAxg1zy6E[/video]

 

Five minutes on any online political forum or gun forum will answer that question. 99.9% of the negative discrimination of blacks come from conservatives, or those who share conservative views, so which party houses the conservatives again?

 

again....why would we? Blacks voting for democrats and not republicans is a republican problem. It certainly isn't MY problem. I would say, right off the bat, that nearly all democrats do not consider themselves to BE racist, and that blacks don't consider democrats to be racist either. Here's a clue: whether you deserve it or not is something for your own conscience to grapple with, but most blacks DO believe that, by and large, republicans are racist. Go figure.

Again...not my problem. your problem. solve it, or ignore it. your choice.

 

That's a blatant generalization without any proof whatsoever and runs contrary to all the evidence that I've provided that liberal democrats from the 1860's to now are the party of racism in this very thread. Care to back it up with some evidence?

Perhaps you should read the thread and tell me where I'm wrong. Watch the videos on this page alone. Was Woodrow Wilson a conservative? FDR, JFK, LBJ? Was Orval Faubus or George Wallace a conservative? No, they were all liberals and I have proved it over and over. Bill Clinton, was he a conservative? Al Gore Sr.? William J. Fulbright? The list goes on and on. Back up what you say with proof. I dare you to try.

Maybe if liberal democrats kept an open mind and looked at the evidence, they can acknowledge the truth finally. I know, that'll never happen.