Democrats OWN the LOCKDOWNS

What do you mean people aren't getting back to work? I don't know of any industry that is shut down. Red states also shut down so please don't try to claim they didn't. No one WANTS to shut down to any capacity.

 

Likely 50% of restaurants will be closed for good.

 

Can you show the order that was given to shut down all business?

 

Oh, don’t worry, dems did not shut down businesses they liked.

 

Which is a shame. I don't favor any business being at lower capacity. I think the businesses that are at lower capacity should be fully open. But let's not pretend it is ONLY Dems who've put in COVID restrictions. Or that Dems WANT to shut down. It's intellectually dishonest to claim such.

 

So no order to shut down all businesses? Got it. You do yourself a disservice when you make bogus clams

 

There was a small group of yahoos protesting Sisolak in Carson a few weeks ago. Then they went to the Nugget and drank beer. Lol.

Was down your way a couple years ago for the Big Blues Bender. Great times, even if was 96 degrees at 2 AM.

 

I thank you for confirming that it was Trump that declared Covid a National Emergency.

 

So businesses going under doesn't matter to you as long as "ALL" businesses weren't shut down. Is it all or nothing?

 

People dying matters.

 

People living matters too.

 

I would not want to be the one having to make the decisions about lockdowns. I can see both sides of the issue.

Governors and governments have a responsibility to every one of their constituents. The business owners and non-business owners alike. Those who are at high-risk of complications fro COVID-19 and those who are not.

There is no magic answer or strategy that is going to please everyone or not cause pain in some fashion. Ignoring the virus and the conditions that help it's spread just leads to overrun hospitals and medical infrastructure that affects everyone who needs those services, whether for COVID-19 or not. Not to mention the harm to individuals from unmitigated spread. Yes, even the high-risk folks are people too and they do matter(an impression you won't get from those who think these folks are expendable).

But you also have the businesses to be responsible for, and here's where the hurt comes. Shutting down or limiting businesses hurts the economy, there's no doubt about that. And I understand the business owners who are angry about this. It's not fair to them, it really isn't. They are getting caught up in the mitigation efforts simply because the type of business they have may not be "essential" or is one that presents a high risk of community spread. Not their fault, but they have to bear the brunt regardless.

There's no way to win, because it's really only possible to serve one end-goal. Governors who use lockdowns are choosing to do so with the goal of lessening the hit to medical services and people's lives, at the expense of businesses. It's a no-win situation.

I have to both laugh and facepalm at the folks who like to push the narratives that these governors are deliberately trying to hurt these businesses, as if harm to business(and tax revenue from them) is the goal and something they benefit from. These folks need to get over themselves. Lockdowns are a result of having a limited amount of choices and all of them being ones that hurt people.

But there are ways to mitigate the mitigation. WEAR THE DAMN MASKS, SOCIAL DISTANCE, WASH YOUR HANDS, FORGO NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND INTERACTION.

We all know this, even the folks who want to attack the governors. Do they do it? Some do. Not enough.

We are where we are because there is a sizable enough segment of our population who think they can have their cake and eat it too. They feel they can go out and act as if there is no pandemic but then think they have the right to get mad when steps have to be taken to deal with the pandemic. Not only feel they can, but feel like they deserve to. Like they are entitled to. Sorry guys, it's time to adult now. It was time in the spring.

 

Blame Trump. He was in charge and screwed it up. Not the fault of democrats. But regardless, in this country, we value life above all else. Living, not making a living.

 

Where did I say that? Oh right...I didn't
I did however say....

Ouch...that's gonna leave a mark.

 

No, governors were in charge. Trump is not a dictator.

 

Your reply does not match my statement so not sure where you pulled that from (who am I kidding, yes I don know where from). I was referring to your statement that not ALL businesses were shut down, as if that matters to the ones that were.

No marks left by your nonsense. When you have no reply of substance, you come out of left field with something else and hope it sticks.

 

He should have been. The failure was at the top. The states did the best they could without a coordinated plan from the feds.

 

Obviously you forgot the argument on that very topic between Cuomo and Trump. It was clearly stated by the dems that it was up to the governors and not Trump. You can't have it both ways. Again, Trump is NOT a dictator.

 

The governor of Oregon was one of the first to issue a lockdown order. In Portland they began screening passengers coming in at the airport, within a day or two after the first outbreak in Washington, well before an infection in Oregon had occurred. All social gatherings were/are banned, especially at bars, restaurants, and sporting events. The state has stepped up and provided financial assistance and protections beyond the national effort. In Oregon it is mandatory to wear masks, as is social distancing, with constant public reminders.

The results have been profound. The rate of infection in Oregon is one of the lowest in the country.


Conservatives like to bash Oregon because it is so liberal. In this case they are yucking it up as they get sick and die. But Oregon is a special place. Life is good here, mostly due to its liberalness, its openness and its caring more about people and the environment than money. When Bush was crashing the economy, Oregon roared to life, and led the country economically, alongside Washington state, throughout the Obama years, and is still punching well above its weight. The health systems are better, and more comprehensive than most states.

So suck it up. The Democratic people of Oregon own the lockdowns because Oregon has one of the best outcomes in the country.

Next door in Republican dominated Idaho, they have a third of the people and three times the infections. And they think that they are the smart ones. (Even though Idaho has a reputation for being one of the least educated states in the country.)

 

Cuomo is irrelevant. A national plan is what was needed, and Trump punted to the governors. Bad move.

 

It is you who is repeating all the talking points. Oh how happy you must be, that people are getting sick and dying. At least someone made a buck. Seems to me that you are bragging about all the preventable illness and death whose spread has been accelerated by the conservative mindset. What a horrible thing to brag about.

 

The Trump didn’t punt, it just walked away.

 

You're joking, right?

 

Right...you assumed I said something I didn't yet I'M the one without substance....hahahaha

 

I never joke about beer