Derek Chauvin verdict...

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    We always good. :date:
     
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    Thank you, Edna. You said that so much better than I could have.
     
  3. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    You are not going to change my mind. Whether she was asleep or not isn't even important. What is important is the police broke down her door on a no knock warrent and started shooting, killing her in her own apartment. That's why her family received a $12 million dollar settlement.
    Have a nice day.
     
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    They are all rare occurrences. Per the Washington Post database, in 2020. 18 unarmed black people were killed by police, and 24 unarmed white people. So no, Floyd's death isn't part of a "pattern of police homicides of unarmed suspects."
     
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    Facts are always important. I may be one of the few who still believe that, but there you go. Have a nice day.
     
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    Maybe to racist white people but not the African American community, besides police homicide is the tip of the iceberg of police overreach that prevents trust and cooperation with the police.
     
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    There is legislation in the House of Representatives called the "George Floyd Policing Bill" that seeks to change the way police interact with citizens.
    I sure hope it passes both the House and the Senate.
     
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    There’s No Way Americans Can Trust The Jury’s Chauvin Verdict.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    Interesting. I gave you facts, and you gave me...not facts. I'm sure you think your feelings trump facts, but I'm sorry, this might as well be gibberish. If you can't debate on a factual level, you can't debate.
     
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    Facts? 76% of blacks disagree with the statement police in most cities treat blacks as fairly as they do whites. Let's just blow them off. Their feelings don't matter. They've got it all wrong said the person not in their shoes. You sound like a white guy trying to convince himself of a world that does not exist.
     
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    Regardless of what the facts are, facts and perception are often not the same. That X% of Y people think Z does not necessarily mean Z is so. It could just as easily be that a narrative is pushed that many Y people have bought into, and the pushing of that narrative could have many different multifactorial reasons.
     
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    All Americans have been fed a steady diet of disinformation by the MSM.

    “This of course should be the role of the Free Press—but the media are selling us short. Instead they have become the willing tools of the propagandists that Jacques Ellul warned us about in Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes, in 1965propagandists so skilled we are not even aware of being manipulated.

    The point is that our primary sources of news and information are increasingly being controlled by a very small group of men–supporting the thesis that an elite group has gained control over the information industry in the United States.”

    “To be successful, as Jacques Ellul wrote, propaganda must be continuous and lasting– continuous and that it must not leave any gaps, but must fill the citizens whole day and all his days; lasting in that it must function over a long period of time.”

    “Today's information industry learned this lesson well from Adolf Hitler who so successfully used propaganda in his quest for power. More than half century century ago Hitler said the masses take a long time to understand and remember, thus it is necessary to repeat the message time and time and time again –the public must be conditioned to accept the claims that are made … no matter how outrageous or false those claims might be.

    We, as a society, appear to have been well conditioned to accept any number of claims regardless of how detrimental they may be to our environment or to our own well being.”
    CENSORED, The News That Didn’t Make The News— And Why, The 1995 Project Censored Yearbook, Kyle Jensen & project censored, FOUR WALLS EIGHT WINDOWS, New York/London 1995. p. 12.
     
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    The comprehensive history of black Americans is rarely taught.

    “The worst enemy that the Negro have [sic] is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.[1]”
    Deus Ex Machina, Malcolm X on White Guilt and the Exploitation of Black Lives, Black Theology, Ethics, JUNE 2, 2020.
    https://deusxma.wordpress.com/2020/...te-guilt-and-the-exploitation-of-black-lives/
     
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    THIS IS SOO TRUE.

    THE NEO LIBERAL is the enemy of black folk. Just like the racist slavemaster on the right and the snake on the left.

    Basicall ALL politicians are the enemy of nlack folk right or left.
     
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    America's great crime against black Americans was not slavery which was and still is a an unfortunately common human institution. The deadliest racist policies came after reconstruction masked as "progressive" reforms. The "progressive movement" was riddled with virulent deadly race theory. These institutions and guiding theories live on. Of course, many of the individuals involved were probably well intentioned fools.


    "The eugenics establishment merged into — or more precisely took over—the population control campaign. In the late 1940s, the Milbank Memorial Fund, one of the main backers of eugenics, began to support research about overpopulation in underdeveloped countries. In 1952 Frederick Osborn, a leading eugenist, organized the Population Council. Osbourne later set up the Population Association of America, and his cousin Fairfield Osbourne became a leader of Planned Parenthood—World Population. The Rockefeller Foundation, another key funder of eugenics research, joined Milbank in 1936 in giving Princeton University (Henry Fairfield Osborn's and John D. Rockefeller III's alma mater) an Office of Population Research (OPR). In the 1940s OPR became a center for eugenists demographer's. Kingsley Davis, Clyde Kiser, Frank Notestein, Dudley Kirk, and Frank Lorimer all work there. When the Rockefeller Foundation financed the Population Council, these five men moved there. (the foundation had also sent its man Charles Edward Amory Winslow into Planned Parenthood at its inception.) Out of the 10 men on the Population Council's demographic and medical advisory boards six have been associated with eugenics."
    LINDA GORDON, The Moral Property of Women, A History of Birth Control Politics In America, University of Illinois Press, Urbana and Chicago, 2007. p. 281.
     
  16. edna kawabata

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    You know Malcolm X was full of crap. While correct about Black oppression, Nation of Islam went about it the wrong way. They were Black separatists and thought "Negroes would get together and solve their own problems". Their problem was the wider society cutting yourself off from that solved nothing. To sell the philosophy they demonized and alienated the Black communities only allies the Jews and liberals. How did that work out for X? Nation of Islam had him wacked and they are still on the corner selling bean pies and incense.
     
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    Here we go with the false narratives and lies.

    Breonna Taylor or her boyfriend shot a gun at police!!! A police officer was struck in the leg with a bullet!

    The reason I say she shot or he did is because he(Kenneth Walker) initially said she was the one who shot at police and then changed his story.

    As for Ahmaud Abery nobody on this thread and nobody with a brain cell would argue he deserved to be shot to death. Please produce the quote from anybody who made that argument.
     
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    Derek Chauvin was guilty of manslaughter and or negligent homicide. There is no way you can convince me he woke up that morning wanting to kill a black person.

    I also do not believe that he knew his actions were causing Floyd's death. He was a moron oblivious to what was happening.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

    There is no "pattern" of police violence. That is a lie. There have not been more suspects dying at the hands of police either another lie.

    The Chauvin verdict accomplishes nothing for race relations or criminal justice. It will not reduce violent crime either. As for the loss of one human being named George Floyd? His family is better off without him they got $27 million.
     
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    Do not let facts get in the way of a good story.
     
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    Your response is to quote a poll (which may or may not exist, but it doesn't matter in this example) on how people feel.

    It's not as if feelings don't matter, but they don't somehow confirm statements that you and others have made, they are just feelings.
     
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    The neo liberal and the slave master(Joe Biden) were both democrats. Both right wing. Republicans were busy trying to end slavery.
     
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    Proud that Delaware was a slave state!
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    Slavemaster Joe Biden.
     
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    Let me say this in a way that will not get my post deleted.

    There is no pattern of violence by police against blacks. There is no increase in police violence against blacks. That is not true!

    There are no statistics that will show that.

    We know more about them because of the media and the desire to manipulate incidents for political purposes. They want to create this dishonest narrative that there is a war by police against blacks. Completely untrue! People want to spread hate and division.
     
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    Prove that statistically. Rather than just trying to spread hate.

    You never back up the things you say with any links or statistics. Just hate white people which will get you likes by 2 other posters who think the same way.
     

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