Derek Chauvin verdict...

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Moriah, Apr 21, 2021.

  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    I seriously doubt if Trump was at 35% of Black people's votes. I'd be surprised if he was at 10%.
     
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    I too was very surprised to read many of the examples exposed by Davis. The history is even worse than I would have thought possible.
    RP/conservatives , like their DP/liberal opposition, tend not to actually read articles or books written by radical left scholars like Davis, Gordon, Dubois... they all should.

    I agree. Liberals are not entirely responsible for systemic racism in America. RP/conservatives historically did not resist systemic institutional racism until Eisenhower sent the paratroopers into Arkansas to integrate the schools, and that was essentially a one off, and very late.

    “[T]he running existential contradictions of D.C., a place where “authenticity and fantasy are close companions”, as the Washington Post’s Henry Allen once wrote. It misses that the city, far from being hopelessly divided, is in fact hopelessly interconnected. It misses the degree to which New Media has democratized the political conversation while accentuating Washington's insular, myopic, and self loving tendencies. It misses, most of all, a full examination of how Washington may not serve the country well but has, in fact, worked splendidly for Washington itself– A city of beautifully busy people constantly writing the story of their own lives.”
    THIS TOWN, Mark Leibovich, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 10.
     
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    There would be problems with evidence and jury bias, but they exist in the current system in spite of all the time spent to eliminate them.

    I think most juries would be able to evaluate flawed evidence when the flaws are pointed out to them by the judge in instructions from the bench, and opposing counsel can tell them why hearsay and other kinds of evidence are less credible.

    An even larger jury might be a good idea to prevent a tiny prejudiced minority from obstructing a verdict. IMO, voir dire, has evolved into jury tampering which usually favors the state.
     
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    Several polls showed Trump's support among black Americans and other non-white voters over 25%. Trump attracted voters from across the spectrum - probably because he could not be pegged on the spectrum.

    "The new Emerson poll puts Trump at 35 percent with black voters and 38 percent with Hispanics. “If you add in Asian voters at 28 percent approval,” notes Emerson’s director of polling Spencer Kimball, “our number is very close to the new Marist poll,” which finds Trump’s approval at 33 percent among non-white voters. A recent RasmussenReports poll has Trump support among black voters at 34 percent, and even the new CNN poll has Trump’s approval among non-white voters at 26 percent."
    NEWSDAY, New polls show black support for Trump surging, By Michael Graham, 12/6/2019. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/black-voters-donald-trump-support-1.39184208
     

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