DeSantis, faced with covid surge, urges Floridians to use Regeneron antibody treatment given to ...

I am absolutely certain that nothing the government does would be surprising.

In this specific situation, however, we are talking about X number of people unwilling to get the vaccine. Yes, they can probably have them picked up by police officers and taken to a mental health facility to be forcibly injected with the vaccine but it's not physically or logistically possible to do that to hundreds of thousands (or millions. I don't know what the number is) of people. Even the detention itself has to follow the letter of the law and nobody can be held beyond a certain period of time in a mental health facility.

However, the other side of that coin is once a person has been forcibly vaccinated they are vaccinated. It can't be removed once it's injected. Of course, that would mean personal injury lawsuits on the backend but how does one prove that if the recipient of the vaccine is not sick or has not died? There's a ton of ins and outs of legal stuff but that's the gist of it.

BUT, a crafty attorney with slippery ethics could probably get this implemented under the Patriot Act or some other legal loophole. Again, though, we're talking about a lot of people and some of those people have already demonstrated they are more than willing to scale walls, beat the hell out of police officers and cause havoc. Unless the powers that be implements some kind of martial law, they are facing a huge battle.

 

No turn it around - you lock them down in quarantine until they either vaccinate or show strict compliance with masking and social distancing

 

At this point in time there probably aren't enough holding cells to keep all of them and it's illegal to hold someone for more than X number of hours\days without some legal reason to do so. This is why the police can't just go pick up Trump. A suspect has the right to be told the reason for their detention within <various states have different rules> or he HAS to be released.

How do we go about getting all the unvaccinated people in some type of detention, forcibly vaccinated and not pay on the back-end with heft fines and lawsuits?

 

Further, studies are still in progress on the particulars of Delta and its transmission to unvaccinated AND vaccinated people and until those studies can be published to show a significant advantage in being vaccinated (versus patients with Delta who were not vaccinated), there is no lawyer on the planet that would defend such actions.

 

Thats really more of a reason that mandating it would be unlawful. Forcing people to take experimental drugs was outlawed by the Geneva Convention, thx mainly to the Nazis.

 

They have done it with TB patients
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmp2004211

The NEJM article is particularly good

 

And taking ivermectin is NOT “experimental”?
Now some questions

What dose is effective?
is that dose close to the toxic level of the drug?
What research backing do you have proving effectiveness?
What stage of the infection should it be used? (A drug inhibiting viral replication is useless if the viral load has already reached the point of Ventilation

 

Bowerbird, I am not refuting the idea that the government can and will do whatever they want to do including holding and vaccinating people who have refused to get the vaccination.

What I am saying is that that course of action is virtually impossible because of the number of people that would fall into that group (unvaccinated).

Do you have any ideas on HOW to hold millions of people without releasing currently incarcerated people? And, if you think this can be done in stages, how would it look for all the people who weren't in the first batch? I'm going to assume that MOST people know about the Holocaust at this point. On what planet would people WAIT to be picked up for forcible vaccination?

 

I'm not interested in defending Desantis or Ivermectin, I know little about either. I'm interested in defending my right to not be coerced into medical experimentation. If it makes you feel any better, I'm no more likely to take ivermectin than I am the covid vaccine, and if I ever vote for Desantis it will be due to lack of alternatives.

 

Read the quarantine act

 

Would you take monoclonal antibodies?

 

Bowerbird, I am not refuting the idea that the government can and will do whatever they want to do including holding and vaccinating people who have refused to get the vaccination.

 

They have less legal cover actually forcing vaccines on someone but they can under that act, enforce isolation

 

You fine them and you fine them HARD

we are doing that with people breaching isolation

 

Not right now. If I develope a condition for which a monoclonal antibody is a successful treatment, I would certainly consider the option.

Why?

 

Regeneron:
They’re also pricey treatments. Last year, the federal government bought 300,000 doses of the Eli Lilly treatment for $1,250 per dose. Some facilities across the country may also charge patients for the cost of administering the drug.

However, Lilly noted in an October release that coronavirus hospitalizations, which the treatments are supposed to prevent, are much pricier: $22,000 per person on average.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253260773.html#storylink=cpy

 

It just dawned on him that he's a mass murderer.

 

At over 21,000, Florida now has more active cases per day over a 7 day average, than at any time since this started.

The actual number of new cases today was almost 50,000. The majority of Florida counties are between 75%-100% ICU capacity.

 

So if you get deathly ill from Covid, will you go to the Hospital and take all the non fda approved meds in an attempt to save your life? If the answer is yes, why the hesitancy to receive meds now?

 

Its a simple risk vs benefit analysis. Chances are extremely low that covid will make me 'deathly ill'. Until that changes, I'll bank on fighting it at home with zinc, vitamin c and my killer immune system.

 

That is what he has done. Parents will determine if their children will wear masks. America is tired of the hectoring of the Mask Mandate Hypocrites.

​

Private jets and no masks — how Obama’s party was height of elite hypocrisy.

"Eco-warriors in private jets to attend a mask optional crowded party."

That's the attitude of the Left's mask hypocrites.

Also screwed his best friend/campaign manager's wife.​

​

But, not one damn word out of lyin' Fauci about Obama/s self-indulgent super-spreader event.

 

Some facts to correct misinformation in this thread.

DeSantis is not the first politician to push this treatment.

In March President Biden allocated $150,000,000 specifically to increase infrastructure and staff needed to get this product to old, fat, and unhealthy people in places medical infrastructure is lacking. President Biden spent $150,000,000 of our money on getting this product to people who need it. The Biden administration is also still actively purchasing this product from the manufacturer with your tax dollars.

Regen-cov is now available as a 1.2 gram dose with the option of a four site subcutaneous injection. Previously it was 2.4 grams. Infusion is still common even though efficacy and safety of both routes of administration are similar. Even the 2.4 gram infusion times were around 20 minutes in practice. One hour observation after administration for both infusion and subcutaneous administration to observe for adverse reactions.

Regen-Cov has been in use under EUA longer than the vaccines with no permanent damage to any recipient. It’s safety record for adverse reactions is similar to the vaccines. It has passed two sets of phase 3 trials, one set for treatment use and another set of trials as a prophylactic. It is more effective at preventing infection than the vaccines, but has not yet been granted EUA for use as a passive vaccine.

Monoclonal antibodies are 30 year old technology that is in common use. This product is a safe effective treatment for Covid that is supported by the Administration as well as informed medical professionals. It has great value in not only treating the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated with breakthrough infections as well.

This regen-cov product should not be confused with the much inferior Eli Lilly product that lost EUA last spring because of it’s inability to neutralize variants.

 

If you read the article you linked, you would have seen that it is administered as a shot......you know the same mobile vaccines clinics work. Since it works for people who already have covid, I doubt they are going to be driving around neighborhoods like the ice cream man.

 

These people are clueless. They just vomit disinformation they are fed by the media. They know nothing about this product.