DeSantis: Florida won’t cooperate with Trump extradition

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    No, it is the requirement of the law for a government to make a case that proves guilt. The presumption of innocence isn't a standard of the law in this country. Ms Pelosi believes that if government charges you it is your obligation to prove the government wrong. Nancy seems to believe she is living in medieval France or modern day China....
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Democrats created the theory of sanctuary cities/states. Are you saying they were wrong?
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does your false equivalency have to do with Ron's open and public crapping on the Constitution?
     
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    And you think anyone in the current administration cares about the constitution? 6 years of proof that the Democrats have done nothing but chit on the constitution. Hell, many here say "it's an out dated document"... yet all of a sudden, you all care for it?!
     
  5. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Ron and Don hate the Constitution. Hate it.
     
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    Your opinion of Bragg's "misdeeds" are not facts. The grand jury true bill is a fact. As long as Bragg conducts this prosecution within the limits of the law, he's fine.
    The process will play out.

    I don't know on what basis the AG of Tejas could possibly indict Biden. Let's suppose he comes up with something. It would have to be a state charge and since Biden is a sitting President I'm sure some kind of qualified immunity would apply. He would have to wait until Biden was out of office but , again, it would have to be a state charge.
     
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    Oh this is going to be so much fun. We liberals/ Democrats just sit back and watch.

    GOP in congress busy with Hunter Biden. Ron the meatball busy violating constitution, other Governor in Red state will do the same, Lindsay will be in Fox news begging for money, conservative media 24/7 defending Trump.

    MCConnell and other moderate wish Trump will go away, but Trump will be all over muddy up there chance of winning anything in 2024.

    MAGA people talk about Civil war.

    Fun, fun fun!
     
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    Typically prosecutor are working for the government. I am not sure why you say no when we said same damn thing. Where did my post say the bold part? You just want to be argumentative for argumentative sake.

    Good luck finding a case where the defendant just chose not to present any case at all.
     
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    DeSantis won't send state troopers to arrest Trump. If New York wants Trump they have to make their own arrangements.
     
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    It was clear on 1/6 how much the MAGA respects the Constitution.
     
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    What with the sad state of affairs here in the US and around the world created by the Biden Administration, and the corruption coming from the Biden family why would the LSM want to cover anything but Trump Trump Trump?!
     
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    In what way? Tell me why one set of federal law can be ignored by democrats when it suits them, and then have them turn around and demand that the same couldn't be applied to a set of law they want to abuse? It's laughable. The bit about border security is in the constitution. The bit about interstate trade is in the constitution. Y'all ignore those regularly. Again. Laughable.
     
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    LOL.. "false equivalency"... translation, using the democratic party's own tactics is only false because you now have to agree that sanctuary cities violated the terms of the constitution in general. Which you still haven't... But thrash away anyway...
     
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    It is a false equivalency.
     
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    Can you and the rest of the Trumpets on this thread just once find out what the laws in your country are. Just once. It never fails that Trump supporters have no clue about the laws of their nation and just spew out whatever crap they think sounds tough guy.

    To start with interstate extradition is REQUIRED by Article 4, Section 2 of the US Constitution. Its not optional. Florida can not opt out of it.

    All that happens if DeSantis wants to play to voters by making the farting noises he does would be to be to force the extradition process which would be hilarious because then it would mean Trump would be arrested and spend hours or days in jail as the process to enforce the extradition is played out.

    Next Trump's lawyers have already said he will turn himself in. The last thing Trump is going to do is harm his image as a persecuted martyr. He needs the news story of being fingerprinted and brought in as a criminal to play to his constituents that he is a martyr.

    The pathetic GOP's jumping on Trump's bandwagon are in panic mode about the next Presidential election and having supported Trump's behaviour.

    Your messiah is going to trial and this is just the first of many to come. The first is always from a psychological point of view the one where people like you make all kinds of absurd comments. By the time he has been indicted many times, people like you will not be making absurd comments about extradition but trying to play up his crimes are just political persecutions.

    You worship a pathetic con man.
     
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    He doesnt have to go anywhere. He's getting all the free publicity anyone could ever want.
     
  17. drluggit

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    So, turn this around. Your opinion that Bragg didn't commit misdeeds is not a fact either. More is your reliance that the true bill won't be dismissed on the bench with prejudice. You should be careful here. If you cannot see the basis for say the AG of Texas, and I cannot see the basis from a DA in NYC, don't you see the similarities here? You seem entirely willing to only allow this BS to flow one way in support of your political agenda. I guarantee you that this isn't the case legally. Open the door, anyone and everyone will walk through regardless if that was your intent or not.
     
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    This is a lot of projection. Take your own advice and learn the laws. It never fails the left continually claims the right is doing something the left is.
     
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    Did Trump need publicity?
     
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    Until someone proves Bragg committed a misdeed, he didn't. That's not an opinion. That's presumption of innocence. For now, the true bill is a fact and what you "cannot see" isn't relevant to this particular case. If you think it through, the Tejas DA wouldn't have any basis to indict Biden because he didn't commit any acts in Tejas. If you change the DA to Delaware, where Biden is a resident and subject to Delaware state law, then you might be onto something.

    Either way, your political agenda seems to be leading you to accuse a DA of "misdeeds" without even knowing the facts of the case.
    So much for due process if it's your guy, right ?
     
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    Even the founders knew that it needed a revision every several years to keep it a modern document.

    Personally I hope Florida does refuse to extricate him because it will do one of two things, SCOTUS will agree with FL which will create exemptions for liberal states when right wingers come after women who have dared to have bodily autonomy or two SCOTUS will side with the Federal Government and we get to watch right wingers freak that the SCOTUS failed them again and then we get to watch federal agencies make mass arrests, maybe we can get ronda and trump!
     
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    since I have no clue who is "the MAGA" , and you did not provide a name, I cannot comment
     
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    Do you not understand that Sanctuary Cities and the FBI's selective enforcement of charges against the left are the same?
     
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    It's not incumbent on the defence to prove their innocence, the fact that so many people seem not to understand that (including Mrs Pelosi) is scary as hell. I think people are fooled by TV where the hero finds one flaw in the suspect's account and this means that everyone thinks they're guilty.

    Trump is on his election tour and has agreed to attend court, this was just DeSantis scoring some easy points with his base.
     
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    I understand folks are citing that to justify DeSantis shredding the Constitution.
     

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