Desmond Tutu: I’d pick hell over an anti-gay heaven

Rediculous. No one has seen God ever, and if he did he would be true to who he is, not some lunatic fringe abberition.

 

Shouldn't the MANY christians ministers in the usa, who believe and teach the same as tutu, Be put in that same boat? And may I ask, why is it that you don't believe there's a Heaven? Now, I can agree with you concerning “hell” which is taught falsely and misunderstood. If MANY would just take the time and do some research instead of following what someone teaches. The would see it's origins, and how christians adopted it. Two faithful followers of Jesus showed us today, what hell most likely is.

Psa. 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (Here David prays to Jehovah concerning making his bed, from my understanding of this false hellfire. People will be forever burning, If so, how can David sleep? The term “making ones bed” ,usually means one gets what they as for or deserved. And if Hell was a place for the wicked, than why did David speak of possibly going there?, he was a Faithful servant. He was basically speaking about a place of bury, if he died).

Then there's Jonah , (Jonah 2:1,2 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice). did he speak of seeing demons and fire in the fish belly? no, but he thought he might die there. This in a sense it would have been his grave. Heaven is very real, Jesus spoke of what will happen to those who does not do the WILL of his Father ,(Matt. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven).

And I do applaud you for NOT saying the dead will have a ghostly form which would leave the body. Because there are none!, when people say they see their dead love ones. They're actually seeing a demon who WANTS humans o believe the dead are roaming the earth, From either Heaven or hell. The thing I find sad concerning christians, many believe in a hell fire. Yet even when a non-christian member die, they say he/she's in Heaven. Even ministers at funerals NEVER ole jimmy's gone to “hell”. And I’m sure it's because hey don't want to insult the families. But if hell real, and they're sent by “god”, they should speak the truth, as Jesus ALWAYS did!

Truth is, this wicked would ,(people), WILL be destroyed ,(Psa. 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth), And those who's trying to do the WILL of Jesus Father's ,(Jehovah God, by the way ,Exo. 6:3), will either live through the great tribulation. This is why Jesus said to be on the watch ,(Rev. 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame). Or the DEAD, who Jehovah God found favor, will be brought back to life ,(Dan. 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt). And (John 5:28,29). peace

 

Are you a Bible reader? If so it may be a good idea to be more attentive to what you read.

Genesis 32:30 (KJV) = [SUP]"30 [/SUP]And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."

Judges 13:22 (KJV) = "[SUP]22 [/SUP]And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God."

And don't forget: Jesus is supposed to be God and people saw him.

 

Who they saw was preincarnate Jesus, God the Son and in those cases Commander of the hosts of heaven.

 

So you're ignoring Jacob, Manoah and his wife? Who did they see?

 

Archbishop Desmund Tutu has quite frequently proven himself a total idiot and this is just more of the same.

 

Not tracking a conversation set at the maximum level. How do I address such...

 

how does anyone know a gay has or never will make it to heaven?

 

Is homosexuality a form of sexual immorality?

 

According to the bible, so is divorcing and remarrying.
And how does any human know what one feels in their hearts about what one does?