Do gays really want to be equal?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Unifier, Dec 13, 2011.

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  1. smileyface

    smileyface Banned

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    That is exactly what you do. You allow your own beliefs to color your view of the information you provided and that is why you have come to the false conclussion.
     
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Too bad you dont have the nads to actually point out what was false.
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    Most people know the difference between love/sex. BTW, lots of heterosexual people enter into marriages they shouldn't have.
     
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    What world do you live in? Everybody knows that normal sex, is sex between a man and a woman (or male and female to you). Anything else is an abberation.

    Do you get it now, or do I have to repeat it ad naseum?
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    You know the answer to that.

    You lie.

    Do you realize that you are relating your strong 'opinion' (not the way everyone perceives what's "normal sex"?

    You'd better learn to discern the difference between what YOU truly 'believe' to be "normal" and what millions of others may view to be "normal".
    The most credible experts in human sexuality have made it clear enough that HOMOSEXUALITY IS NORMAL. And while you or others either cannot or will not believe/think that is true... it nevertheless is.
     
  6. diligent

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    Homosexuality is abnormal. Everyone knows that. It doesn't take much intelligence to work it out, as all you need to do is to open your eyes and look at the physical aspects of males and females. Very simple really unless, of course, you stubbornly refuse to recognise what is so patently obvious. Reminds me of the old story about the 'King with no Clothes' where his subjects were too scared to tell their sovereign he was naked!

    Well there are still plenty of people with sufficient guts to declare what is obvious ie that men and women are physically different. I don't know why some people are so arrogant as to challenge what is so patently apparent!
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    You are 'incorrect'. (Your opinion is what you are sharing here.)

    Intelligence has virtually zero to do with understanding that the normalcy of one's sexual-orientation, isn't determined by your mere opinion. There are valid reasons why science has come up with something else.

    Yes, it looks VERY much as though you are over-simplifying reality; your folly, not mine.

    If he "King" was hot, I might be interested in your little story.

    It's not about guts; it's about what science has figured out since the notions you are spouting were first introduced. You are opining from abject IGNORANCE. How about clothing YOURSELF in some 'knowledge'. What you're promoting here, is very likely based upon irrational animus, homophobia and personal bias.

    LOL!!! You say the above, and at the same time accuse others of "arrogance". That's HILARIOUS! :)
     
  8. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can name about 50 people that I know personally that would not agree with this statement. Remember "everyone" means all 7 billion people (or if you are talking about the US the 330 million). Very broad statement indeed. People now support ssm by over 50% and it is increasing each and every year.

    Homosexuality is also seen in nature in over 1500 species. But ok, you can call it what you want to call it, it does not make automatic rights given to opposite sex marriages but denied for same sex marriages any less discriminatory.

    I don't think anyone here is arguing that men and women are different, not that some people on this forum are ignorant as hell about anything they precieve as "abnormal"

    And since you mentioned the "King" he was doing what was normal as clothes are, for the most part, unnatural and unheard of in any realm outside of humans; or when people dress up their little animals...
     
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    So is having red hair, or writing with your left hand.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Oh my anatomy!! It doesn't determine sexuality.

    HOW DARE YOU CALL ME UNNATURAL!! :p
     
  11. diligent

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    Oh well if you want to take every word that I write literally that's your problem,but most intelligent people can ascertain the true meaning of my words. Or maybe that's just your tactic when you are unable to arrive at a rational argument to disprove that men and women are physically constitued to have sex with each other. The male species is not so constituted. Or is your PC world so narrow that you can't see the obvious?

    When you start calling me homphobic, the dearth of your arguments in promoting the normalisation of homosexual behaviour becomes very obvious.

    It's glaringly evident you haven't heard of the story by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those unfit for their positions. But when he parades in front of his subjects he is naked! You are in same position when you 'pretend' not to notice that men and women are different. How silly is that!

    I certainly haven't heard that science has discovered that men and women have the same anatomy and 'pretending' otherwise will not change this biolgical fact. Please supply me with the proof of your earth shattering discovery!
     
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    It's different to the majority but not abnormal. I politely suggest you stop trying to play silly games and stick to logic
     
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    Abnormal is an objective term. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
     
  14. cd8ed

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    Yes men and women are different.
    Yes toasters and trees are different.

    Equal rights are the same, love is the same, family is the same, just because you fail at understanding this (putting you well below half of Americans) does not make your argument that gays are abnormal any more true. You are free to your beliefs but please try to be honest and not make up things or misquote people to further your argument, it makes you look silly.
     
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    Different from the majority is abnormal. It's not silly to use words correctly. The problem you have with this is you assume there's something bad associated with being abnormal and you want to avoid that association. That's an error on your part. Being abnormal -- being unusual, unique, or exceptional -- isn't negative in and of itself. Einstein was abnormal.


    ab·nor·mal adj \(ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl, əb-\
    Definition of ABNORMAL

    : deviating from the normal or average : unusual, exceptional ​
     
  16. diligent

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    Do you really believe that Abnormal is in the eye of the beholder. So I ask these questions to test the integrity of your statement:

    Do you consider this type of person normal:

    - paedophiles ;

    - rapists;

    - multiple murderers aka Stalin, Hitler, Mao or Charles Manson;

    - the man who held his daughter hostage in Belgum for 24 years and had sex with her and fathered seven (7) children wih her.

    Yes your definition of normal is great, but only for those who committ these acts of sexual depravity. Their victims would have a very different opinion!
     
  17. diligent

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    You are so bereft of logic, you have now stooped to making comparisions between toasters and trees (inanimate objects), and human beings.

    Do you really want to discuss this topic seriously or is it just a joke to you?
     
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    HOLY COW we agree

    the gay movement is too caught up in the word "normal"

    homosexual sex is abnormal as is having a 3-way or an orgy.

    eating pasta with your hands is abnormal

    not wiping your butt is abnormal


    I don't view using the term abnormal as insulting or denegrating.
     
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    this too is correct and spot on
     
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    I was making a joke, comparing two different objects to make a point. You are the one comparing the private consensual relations between two individuals to rape, murder, ect.

    You are the one "bereft of logic" buddy.

    Also thank you for ignoring 99% of my post, proving much about your "logic" and intellectual honesty. Cheers
     
  21. diligent

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    That's great logic, making a joke out of a post. Do you really expect a sane person to believe that?

    And you now make a comparision between a toaster and a tree, pretending it was a joke! Well, what more can one say about such a post. No wonder you can't tell the difference between normal sex between a male and female and sex between homosexuals.
     
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    But we don't deny those abnormal people equal rights, do we?
     
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    I said a toaster and a tree are different, are you disagreeing with this statement? I never even made a comparison, I made a statement and you jumped on it like most of those with no real argument except gays are bad/disgusting/immoral. Keep up with the semantics, it suits you ...

    You compared gay people to murder, rape, and pedophilia. You lose, you have no credibility after such statements.
     
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    Don't you people have anything better to do then to talk about other people's sexual preferences?
     
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    You can continue with your fantasies and try to convince normal,logical people that sex between those of the same sex is normal. All those who don't indulge in such fanatasies know that such sex is not normal. They only have to examine their respective bodies to understand the difference. Maybe you need an urgent lesson in biology!

    PC doesn't work fro me, I need logic.
     
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