Do Muslims have "a duty to kill" anyone who insulted the Prophet Muhammad?

I guess you never heard of Yevgeny Rodionov, the 19 year old soldier who was beheaded by Chechnans because he refused to take the cross off his neck and convert to Islam? But he's not the only one. In the Orthodox Church we have martyrs galore from Ottoman times.

 

I'm amazed after reading your many antisemitic posts you love Islam so much.
I guess it's a shared Bigotry.

Muslim-led nations seek global ban on insults of Muhammad
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/24/muslim-led-nations-seek-ban-on-insult/?page=all
I know, never heard of it.

So now you are an Apologist for Islam not only against Judaism but Christianity too.

How is it do you think Islam spread from the Arabian Peninsula? Text popularity?
How is it do you think Islam is/claims "the fastest growing religion" (in the West)... while... Christians are being Cleansed from the Arab/Muslim world NOW and for the last 50-100 years.
One has to love how you curse Jews while you post Deluded Lies, even at the expense of Christianity, just to further that bias even while Islam/Muslims are Cleansing and killing Christians Worldwide as we post.

You win 30 pieces of silver.
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Light the fuse and turn the entire mid east to glass. Who would miss them?

 

Your example is from 1996. Here is one from 2013:

 

The majority of Muslim People are good, hard working people just like anyone else.

However their are extremist groups that use Islam as if it allowed them to kill.

I have had experience with such people.

There is a misconception in the world that such Muslim Extremist Terrorist Groups are something to fear and once such fear grips a people such Extremist Groups are allowed to operate unfettered by interference of such people.

In reality the people who comprise such Extremist Groups are on the average outcasts and cowards that cringe at the first sight of Teams such as the one I lead on occasion. WE are the real terror and although my JOB is to solve problems and come to agreements with such people as a last resort prior to more...harsher actions...several times these groups we are sent to meet once encountering us will act in a way that THEY THINK will intimidate or frighten us.

They don't.

The simple fact is that if we were let loose and not constrained to policies dictated to us and our...JOBS...within a matter of a year...there would not remain any Extremist Terrorist Groups and the manner of their removal would be so Burned In to the minds of any and all who might follow in their paths that NO ONE would chance being the focus of Teams such as mine.

I am a man of peace. I abhor violence. Nothing would make me happier than for all sides and groups and peoples to just come to an agreement that would benefit all. THAT is my sole directive and first and foremost primary goal.

But after a person has been doing this as long as I have been...over 3 decades....that person will come to understand that some people just don't want peace as it is the fighting that fuels their ego's and visions of power and glory.

These kind of people are the very first to send in some KID with little training and a bomb with ball bearings strapped and locked around their torso with chains and padlocks. These so called Hero's of Islam would NEVER do such a thing with themselves as they are COWARDS and use some warped interpretation of Islamic Ideology to justify the use of young people as well as the Mothers and Fathers of young children they hold at gun point threatening to kill them if the parents don't wear a suicide vest or drive a bomb laden truck into a U.S. checkpoint.

They are NOT HERO'S! They are COWARDS of the HIGHEST ORDER!

I can tell you from experience that many times that I was on a JOB and a meeting was set up between my Team and such a Extremist Groups Leadership where a meeting site was agreed upon...I have always known that these groups primary goal was not to agree to a settlement but these meetings were an attempt to possibly catch us with our guard down in the hopes that they could KILL US.

When such meetings take place I make certain to go over every aspect of the terrain, any buildings, where the sun will be in the sky at the time we meet, monitor all previous and ongoing communications, monitor the behavior of the people in any villages either close to the meeting spot or villages associated with a groups activities and I make certain I have a few of my team members positioned a MINIMUM TWO to THREE DAYS ahead of time...if possible near the location sporting 50 Cal Barrett's XM107's...a newer version of M82A3.

My guy's can effectively provide cover for us at a distance over a Kilometer and an M82A1 has recorded a Sniper Kill in Afghanistan at a distance of 2475 Meters or 2.475 Km's....although this requires a two man team one used for spotting. I am comfortable in the 1/2 to 3/4 of a Km distance if at all possible.

What happens is the leadership of these groups we will meet will send their men a day before...I have NEVER seen them send their men any earlier than a day....and my pre-positioned team members will observe and report as very often the Extremist Group is pre-positioning men of their own.

When they do this they are a few untrained and undisciplined men equipped with old Soviet Era Dragunov semi-automatic sniper rifle/designated marksman rifle chambered in 7.62×54mmR.

Or they might have an AK-47 which anyone who has ever fired one KNOWS after the first shot this rifle bucks so hard it is impossible to easily or quickly bring the weapons sights back to target.

My Team and I cover every aspect, every possibility, provide ourselves contingency plans in case of the unknown, study the other sides people, leadership, tendencies, history, loves, fears, families, hobbies, illnesses or past injuries, go over what person might have trouble seeing or hearing or due to injury have issues walking or running, we study the Holidays Religious or otherwise, know at what time of the year will the terrain be dry, damp, cold, hot, know the Lunar Calendar or whether it will be clear or cloudy thus determining visual detection capability with the Human eye or with Night Vision, we look at the history of any particular group and it's leadership upon past such meetings....etc...etc...etc...

Now these groups do not even come close to the level of ability and experience and thoroughness my Team will exhibit upon their performance during a JOB.

If and When things might go SOUTH....and I have NO WISH OR DESIRE for anyone on either side to get hurt...when things go bad...and if they do it is because the Extremist Groups Leadership has planned and determined it will...during the first 5 SECONDS the Leadership and Members of such a group will have large smiles upon their faces as the shout... ALLAHU AKBAR!

These smiles and this confidence is quickly GONE as after that initial 5 Seconds were they feel they have the upper hand and are on the way to victory....they quickly begin to realize they have bitten of WAY MORE than they can chew as my Team begins to respond.

Now after such unpleasantness often we will have a few that have surrendered and the look upon their faces is always the same. These are young men who were brainwashed by their leaders into thinking that the United States and it's Intel. Services and Military are made up of decadent lazy INFIDELS who will stand no chance against the power of the ALL MIGHTY ARMS OF ALLAH.

Now...as these young men sit upon the ground with their hands Zip Tied...their eyes and faces tell it all as a look of astonishment and confusion shows upon them.

I really feel sorry for these kids as most were just uneducated, poorly fed, unable to have the money to get a wife, sexually frustrated and lost Muslim Kids who not having anything or anywhere else to go were CONED into doing these things after joining a Madrassa or taken in by such groups.

If you are a 18 to 21 year old Arab Kid with NO MONEY, NO WIFE, NO FOOD, NO MEDICAL, LITTLE CLOTHING, NO EDUCATION AND NO DIRECTION....there is no alcohol allowed so these kids can't relieve the stress. There is no Porn or ability to have SEX with a woman. Nor can a kid even SEE a young woman as they are covered from head to toe. Basically...when such KIDS get fed and clothed and then told a story about how if they wear an explosive vest and detonate it...they will go to Paradise and the seventy something virgins and blah, blah, blah....well if there is nothing else good in your life....this starts sounding PRETTY GOOD!

I really feel bad for these kids. I really do.

Against us they have...no chance...no chance at all.

AboveAlpha

 

Good post. With regards to the above, you are spot on. In Lebanon for example, you will find that Tripoli is a far more religious city than Beirut is; if you look at the economic disparity between the two cities, you will understand why. Impoverished people will join militias, as they really have no other route.

 

We all read the Propaganda haters use to fuel their present day Crusades! Some of us do not buy it, though, we renounce it for the Propaganda it is. Any true Christian Martyr desires noone to set out to kill for God!

 

We've been over this tit for tat rethorics a thousand times... There can be no moral justification for blowing up school full of children. Period

 

God would and those who truly believe in God.

 

Then why do US taxpayers keep funding US civilian slaughters in foreign lands, like the war in Iraq that led to the deaths of over 1 million human beings In Iraq?

 

My primary point I am posting about in this thread is that God does not require man to kill for Him. The killing comes from evil inside a man, not from God. And the Christian God and the Muslim God are the same God. Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. You using my comments as a launching pad for personal attacks against me over what you allege I have said elsewhere says everything about you and absolutely nothing about me.

 

Thank You.

But my post really is a sad reality.

If these kids were brought up in the United States where there exists over 7 MILLION Muslims and 2100 plus Mosques...these kids would be just graduating High School or in College.

AboveAlpha

 

Why do many Arab Christians refer to God as “Allah”?

Allah” is the Arabic word for “God” and has been so long before the existence of(*)Islam. The names “Allah” and “God” are generally interchangeable within the Muslim religion and in Middle Eastern cultures. Some English translations of the Qu’ran (Koran) use the name “God,” others use“ Allah.” This sometimes comes as a surprise to Christians who were raised in Western cultures. Among former Muslims, many converts to Christianity commonly refer to God as “Allah.” (This is despite the fact that they recognize clear differences in the character of God as described by the Bible compared to Islamic writings. For example, although both Christians, Muslims and Jews firmly believe there is only one God, Christians have the additional doctrine of the(*)Trinity.) http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html

 

What you posted is merely one person's opinion and it is faulty. First of all the Christians never converted wholesale to Islam, with the exception of some tribes like the Circassians in Russia. Whenever the Christians in the Near and Middle East were persecuted, they would leave...They left Iraq ten years ago, and they are leaving Syria today.

As for the Crusades, they had their good points. Without the Crusades and the rise of Venice, who would have held the Ottomans back? The Byzantine Empire became a back water because of the Turks, so can you imagine what the rest of Europe would have been like if they gained a foothold.

 

Lebanon is really is quiet a bit more complicated than what you make it out to be. Have you read Pity The Nation? What you learn from that book is that Lebanon is made up of a diverse population of peoples that includes Christians and Muslims (Shiite and Sunnis) and you learn every group has committed atrocities against one another and also had in fighting where they have all committed atrocities within their own groups.

 

Crusaders went to what is today Beirut and killed every man, woman and child. Beirut is called the Phoenix because it has been destroyed and rebuilt so many times. Is that your kind of Christianity? It is not my Christianity. Jesus shows me who God is and He never took human life or instructed His followers to kill.

 

At last report, a Christian is being killed for their faith every three minutes.

 

I heard they killed everyone in Jerusalem. I didn't know they killed everyone in Beirut as well. Funny how Mohamed's army went killing throughout the Middle East, and yet the Christians aren't dwelling on it, so why are you people dwelling on something that happened one thousand years ago?

 

You may not believe it, but US does not target women, children and elderly as a matter of policy. When they happen, they're collateral damage. War is hell.

 

I am an American Christian. I am not "you people." The more I read about the Crusades, the more the Western War on Terror looks like a Modern version of it.

 

Quotations

U.S. President(*)George W. Bush, from a press conference upon arrival at the South Lawn of theWhite House, September 16, 2001.(*): "We need to go back to work tomorrow and we will. But we need to be alert to the fact that these evil-doers still exist. We haven't seen this kind of barbarism in a long period of time. No one could have conceivably imagined suicide bombers burrowing into our society and then emerging all in the same day to fly their aircraft — fly U.S. aircraft into buildings full of innocent people — and show no remorse. This is a new kind of — a new kind of evil. And we understand. And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient. I'm going to be patient. But I can assure the American people I am determined, I'm not going to be distracted, I will keep my focus to make sure that not only are these brought to justice, but anybody who's been associated will be brought to justice. Those who harbor terrorists will be brought to justice. It is time for us to win the first war of the 21st century decisively, so that our children and our grandchildren can live peacefully into the 21st century."(*) http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010916-2.html

 

Our Christian God is not the same as the Muslim God. As an example; have you ever seen Christians coming out of a Church? Would you say they're peaceful, or are they raging, because this would be the difference between our God and yours. Our God gives us an inner peace. Passion in any form, whether it's revenge, hatred, envy, lust, etc., is the antithesis of Christianity.

 

I was not discussing Lebanon.

But since you brought it up I was there in the 80's when all sorts of problems were occurring including the HUGE MISTAKE of placing American Soldiers in a building that was targeted by a Suicide Bomber.

I am well aware of the very secular and diverse Religious population in Lebanon as well how if one was to drive to one side of Beirut...they would find themselves in almost an American like small town atmosphere with all kinds of people sitting outside of Cafes drinking coffee and eating....while at the same time on the other side of the city all HELL would be breaking loose.

The USS New Jersey BB-62...an Iowa Class Battleship fired it's main guns...The Iowa-class battleship USS Iowa fires a full broadside of her 16"/50 Mark 7 guns. ... These guns are 66.6 feet long....and KILLED the Syrian General in control of Syrian Forces.

AboveAlpha

 

I already have stated I am a Christian and you keep posting as if Im a Muslim. My Muslim inlaws have attended a Christian church with me, they wanted to be there. They left that Christian Church the same way the Christians did. No idea why you are committed to seeing Muslims as some inferior life form with such different behavior from Christians. Certainly, it is not Jesus example you are following.

 

I know quite a few Muslims and they are good people same as anyone.

The problem is that the Islamic Extremists have made many Christians think that anyone who is Muslim is an extremist. This of course is ridiculous but is true none the less.

As I have stated I sometimes must deal with such Extremists and their absolute HATE of anyone who is not of Islam is apparent and they are very vocal about it.

The building problem is that as such Islamic Extremists conduct and perpetrate terrorist acts upon the Western World...westerners in general will view Muslims in general to greater and greater extent as Extremists and Terrorists.

What is worse is should a major terrorist attack like the one that occurred on 9/11...happen again...the resulting U.S. Military response would be too terrible to even discuss or think about.

Public sentiment would be that an END would have to be brought about to such terrorism and the U.S. Military is fully capable of creating such an END GAME.

Let's hope that never happens because I am aware of some of the contingency plans specific to such an END GAME and it would cause the deaths of MILLIONS.

AboveAlpha