Do Muslims have "a duty to kill" anyone who insulted the Prophet Muhammad?

Well...it kind of depends upon when such things have happened over time.

During the Crusades the Christians Crusaders were given given such ridiculous and immoral commands by the Roman Pope such as when killing a Heathen...a Crusading Knight was not to use a SPIKED MACE...but to use a SMOOTHED HEAVY METAL BALLED MACE...to crush the skulls of Muslims without drawing a great amount of Blood as is what would happen if using a Spiked Mace.

So there were some fairly...F@#&$% UP....actions done by Christians.

As well...when looking at the ancient Egyptian Gliffs the Egyptians detail how Hebrews were HIRED...not brought in as slaves but....HIRED as Mercenaries to augment the Egyptian Army that was always out conquering this African or Middle Eastern Kingdom or another and needed additional skilled warriors to help them as after a while the Egyptian society had become decadent and it was difficult finding Egyptian Men who came from wealthy families...as Egyptian society had become wealthy as a whole...to serve in their Army so the Hebrews were hired.

The Hebrews were paid very well to be HIRED MERCENARIES and bred in great numbers. As the Hebrews grew large in population they made several attempts to take over Egypt and after such attempts were crushed the Egyptians would now and then KILL THE FIRST BORN MALE INFANTS OF ALL HEBREW FAMILIES as a method of population control.

So every group at one time or another was a PAIN IN THE ASS!

AboveAlpha

 

And I deny none of those things you mentioned. However, we are in the here and now - and in the here and now, islam is a pretty screwed-up religion, or has screwed up adherents, or screwed up leadership; take your pick.

There's a poster elsewhere that essentially describes islam as an immature religion that has not yet figured out how to coexist with others around it; that basically describes them as a teenage religion - on a maturation level, islam is where Christianity was about the time of the Crusades. The problem is that if you imagine the Crusaders with access to WMD's, that's what islam is at the moment.

I can't really disagree with that assessment.

 

YOU label killing acts of some Extremism and excuse the killing acts of others. Who do you think you are fooling here? Certainly not me. This Impunity for terrorism of Nations explains why the UN has adopted no intl definition of terrorism. The truth is State Terrorism takes many more lives than individual acts of extremism does.

 

You know...I have been to most of the countries in the Middle East and I can tell you that the countries that are U.S. Allies...and most that are have OIL...have a very wealthy population with beautiful parks, indoor parks specific for family fun...even if some have separated areas for women and men...fantastic U.S. Construction Co. designed and engineered cities and streets, excellent sea water desalination plants, a very healthy population that is provided Health Care and other benefits, almost ZERO CRIME...and very modern building designs.

Now then if you go to the countries that are NOT U.S. Allies you will see...squalor, poverty, hunger, disease, war, Islamic Extremists...etc...

These Non-U.S. Allied Islamic Countries are living in the STONE AGE as Sharia Law exists and a woman who has been RAPED is buried up to her waist in the sand while stones have already been collected as HER FATHER IS REQUIRED TO THROW THE FIRST STONE AT HER...because even though she was RAPED...in this sick and twisted STONE AGED RELIGIOUS SOCIETY....it is determined that it is HER FAULT...and considered now that her Rape is a LOSS OF FAMILY HONOR...and the only way to reclaim that honor is to STONE HER TO DEATH.

Now people can talk about such things but....I HAVE SEEN IT FOR MYSELF FIRST HAND! It is quite possibly the most BRUTAL, DISGUSTING, SICKEST AND MOST VIOLENT way for a person to die...SLOWLY...while the woman or girl desperately PLEADS with her Father and Brother and Husband to STOP KILLING HER...until all that can be heard is the THUMP of large stones striking her head and the small and piteous moan that can barely come out of her crushed throat and mouth.....until finally...the moan stops....a man comes up and checks her pulse at her carotid artery in her neck....then the man stand back up and say's in Arabic...She is still alive.

Again the crowd grabs stones and hits her head again and now a audible gurgle of a moan is heard again and along with it what sounds like....in Arabic...DADDY!

AboveAlpha

 

Not the point. You discussed extremists of all three religions existing, when I pointed out that one of said religions sure seems to have more extremists, you immediately went to the global level and said ignoring that was hypocricy. That is the textbook definition of goalpost moving. Also, saying that Islam has more people engaging in extremist acts than Judiasm or Christianity =/= excusing the killing acts of Judaism and/or Christianity. I think you're fooling yourself.

 

I do not agree one of the religions has more extremists engaging in extremist acts. . I think the West wants to demonize and control others.

 

Do I have to get 70 virgins? I find that sleazy hookers are way better at sex and have an "anything-goes" attitude.

 

You can't condemn an entire religious group for the actions but of a few.

That would be like saying all Christians are Homicidal Maniacs just because a few Christians are such as the ones that have murdered Doctors outside of Planned Parenthood Clinics.

AboveAlpha

 

You can't really compare Islam with Christianity here because the latter has been essentially replaced by the state as means of conveying power. You are not going to find Western, Christian 'extremists' because that job belongs to the military or state policy. For example, take the Lebanese Civil War, wherein a great many Christian extremists did horrible things. Other examples include WWII, Israeli policy, drone attacks, etc....

 

Sort of correct. The sinod / Nicaea council effectively created the bible. I would say though that Saul of Tarsus really should get credit for a lot of the bible. He made wholesale changes to the letters of the apostles so that instead of Jesus giving a message, Jesus became the message. He justified it in Acts. But yeah - for all intents and purposes the christian bishops back then put it all together with the blessing of Constantine. Constantine also had 50 bibles made, and as the story goes Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus might be from 2 of those 50 bibles. Who knows.........

 

I have found that the most dangerous and vile people I have meet were Ultra-Religious...and that goes for Muslims, Christians and Jews.

They actually think that they are being controlled by GOD and that their murderous actions are justified.

Such people who constantly talk about the rewards once they go to heaven...have no business existing...and I am happy to say that I have helped that process along.

AboveAlpha

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There really was no reason for me to go into that depth.

But it is nice to see that some people know the realities.

AboveAlpha

 

Look...the ONLY reason why most of the Oil Rich Middle Eastern countries have a high standard of living for their people is because the United States FORCES these countries and their leadership to give money back to the people in the form of benefits and civic projects.

Do you really think for a moment the Saudi Royalty would give up a DIME....if they could get away with keeping it for themselves?

Look at IRAN. An OIL RICH NATION where all the profits are STOLEN AND KEPT by the Iranian Religious Guard.

With the amount of OIL Iran has it's people should enjoy a VERY HIGH standard of living. But they don't.

AboveAlpha

 

The Gospels were written before Constantine. The fact some books were not included in The Bible does not render those that were included inaccurate. And I believe what is written in The Gospels to be true. Of course, others are free to choose to believe whatever they want to believe.

 

Unbelievable, this claim the people in the ME owe credit to the US for all their governments do for them. We prop up corrupt governments who treat many of their people horribly. And in Iran our sanctions are hurting people and people will die from those sanctions, as they did in Iraq.

 

You don't even know what was written by the apostles. Nothing they wrote exists. The oldest codex is from 250 years after the apostles died. There are no bibles older then Sinaiticus, and that was written at the request of Constantine. Do you actually know anything or do you just like watching yourself type? So you not only are a Jew hater but even as a christian you don't know the history of your own religion? That's pretty funny, tbh.

 

American feminists have each insulted the Prophet Mohammed...PBUH and now they must pay the price for their disobedience to the word of Allah. Muslims know who to act as the hand of Allah in administering justice to American feminists.

 

That is not the issue.

When one is to read the Gospels of Judas and Thomas and the Gospels of Mary...these Gospels tell of a Jesus who adamantly taught that ANYONE could become the SON OR DAUGHTER OF GOD by following his teachings.

Now the Gospels that were picked and used by the Imperial Roman Church were Gospels that stated that Jesus taught that he was the actual SON OF GOD.

The reality is that there does not exist a single Gospel that is the original written text of an actual Apostle.

All Gospels are texts created by other men many years later.

AboveAlpha

 

USA has no obligation to sell or give anything to Iran. Maybe someday you should read the US Constitution. It covers treaties. You should go to Iran. You really don't deserve to be in USA.

 

I don't know?

Looking at the tiny and skinny members of the Muslim Brotherhood I would place my money on a Healthy American Feminist to KICK A MEMBER OF THE BROTHERHOODS ASS! LOL!

AboveAlpha

 

America needs lots more Male Muslim Immigrants. They would rock the world of feminism in this country.

 

I love the history of Judaism and Christianity. It has been an interest of mine for 40 years. On a related note, I just spent a month at Vatican City and the Jewish Ghetto. One of the greatest experiences of my life. Next up I want to go to some of the archeological digs in Israel. My brother lives in Tel Aviv so we are starting to plan it for a year or two down the road.

 

What I have posted here is the FACTS!

Iran has great oil wealth yet those profits do not trickle down to Iran's people. Even though Saudi Arabian Royalty take a good portion of the Kingdoms Oil Wealth...because they depend upon the United States to defend them they must provide for the Saudi People.

Iran...does not have to answer to the United States...thus Iran's Old Religious Guard steals the Oil Profits.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

AboveAlpha

 

True, but demanding the whole world follow it's way is pretty much world dictatorship.

Maybe you should regarding Amendments 1,4,5 etc

Ironic how so many of you who live in this supposed 'free speech democracy' tell everyone who does not believe in your point of view to leave.

 

They may think they do. To this, I say, (*)(*)(*)(*) muhammad. And for those who wish to exact your revenge, know that I have pork lined 5.56mm projectiles with your name on them.

 

I have had....some irritating periods of time when doing a few...JOBS in Israel.

It was a JOB specific to hammering out issues prior to an up coming larger agreement.

I was a...FREEKIN' BABYSITTER and I ended up getting stuck doing that for a few months.

AboveAlpha