Do Muslims have "a duty to kill" anyone who insulted the Prophet Muhammad?

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  1. bill hill

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    No, they are NOT the same GOD. Very different if you know anything about the 2 religions.
     
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    Uhhh...last time I checked all three Religions...Jewish, Christian and Islam all believe in the same ancient religious text that Christians call the OLD TESTAMENT.

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  3. bill hill

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    Check again. and start with the New Testament.
     
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    What the HELL are you taking about?

    The New Testament is specific to Jesus.

    Neither the Muslims or Jews are going to be agreeing with the New Testament! LOL!

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  5. Sherri Munnerlyn

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    All are Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Islam and Christianity, and they believe in one supreme God. I think you have to start with the Old Testament for the historical background it provides, for all three religions. Now, I do concede the three religions believe different things about God. And I do believe The New Testament is where you find the central beliefs of Christianity.
     
  6. bill hill

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    Which is why i SAID THAT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT. You said they were the same. THEY ARE NOT!! Is JESUS CHRIST LORD, to the muslims? to the jews? NO....VERY DIFFERENT
     
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    The ONLY differences between between all three religions are...Christians believe Jesus was the Son of GOD.

    Muslims acknowledge Jesus as a Prophet of GOD but do not believe he was the SON of GOD....as well they have their OWN..."NEW TESTAMENT"....what is the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.

    Jews do not believe Jesus was the son of GOD.

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  8. bill hill

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    Which is why I said they are all very different. Christian faith is all about JESUS CHRIST AS LORD THE SAVIOR. That is the complete core to Christianity. It is the bottom-line and nothing more. That is very different from islam and judaism.

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    And that makes them COMPLETELY different. PERIOD
     
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    I never said they were the same.

    I said all three religions all believe in the SAME ANCIENT RELIGIOUS TEXT THAT CHRISTIANS CALL THE OLD TESTAMENT.

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    Anyway's...my point is that all three believe in the same GOD that existed before Jesus as the Christians believe Jesus is GOD as well.

    It really doesn't matter anyway's because it's ALL BULLS#!% and is akin to believing in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny! LOL!

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  11. bill hill

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    Fair enough, however you then went on to say that the "only difference is the Christians believe Christ is Lord" while the muslims and jews do not. That is very true, yet it makes them worlds apart. SO, we have a complete different definition of who GOD is or isn't. Again, that makes them separate and apart from one end of the spectrum to the other.
     
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    Does ANYONE here know why Easter is called Easter and why we give baskets with chocolate rabbits, eggs and marshmallow chicks with green grass to kids?

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  13. bill hill

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    So, at the end of the day, we have an atheist describing the rules. Perfect. I could smell it a mile away..
     
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    I am not an atheist.

    I am an Agnostic.

    AboveAlpha...p.s...do you know why as far as Easter?
     
  15. bill hill

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    Yeah, it's called paganism intwined by Augusta to keep the people in controlled herds. Man made, not about GOD. The real Easter starts with Good Friday

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    It's historical. you can read all about it.
     
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    It is called EASTER as it's REAL NAME is the Holiday of ESTER...the pagan fertility Goddess.

    Pagans would make baskets and place rabbits, chicks, eggs, grass and other items and foods that denoted the Spring Solstice.

    TO THIS DAY....what day EASTER will be on is calculated using the LUNAR CALENDAR.

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    Anyway's...the same information provided in the Old Testament exists in both the Jewish and Muslim religious texts.

    The problem is that the Old Testament was written by ancient man at a time where there was very little in the way of scientific understanding or social advancement.

    So the GOD depicted by ancient man was a WRATHFUL GOD who would punish any and all infractions without mercy. As well some of the stories such as a father being asked to kill his son and the like when read today create VERY LITTLE ASSOCIATION to modern human culture and society....with the exception of Islamic Extremist dictated Sharia Law.

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  18. bill hill

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    It seems you have the need to tell me something that i already know, YET you have the need to post anyway. I'm not sure what your point is?
     
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    There are extremists in all three religions being discussed, who interpret their religious texts literally. There are Jews for example who believe the world was created for Jews and Gentiles were created solely to serve them. These beliefs are written in the Talmud. There are Fundamental Christians who reject Evolution because they believe the story of Creation is literally true. And some hang on to teachings in The Old Testament inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus. It is not a simple task to reconcile The Old Testament and The New Testament to each other, especially when some are committed to a too literal interpretation of the texts. Personally, I place The Gospels at the center of my beliefs as a Christian and reject anything in The Bible inconsistent with Jesus teachings in The Gospels.
     
  20. bill hill

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    I see where you are taking this. I disagree with your notion. In fact, i think it is very clear as a Nation, as we get further away from the foundation of many of our forefathers, we are progressing with technology yet digressing with morality. We have lost our fight for what is a moral and just cause of man in society where PC is run amuck and somehow we find it hard to believe how we have lost our way. It's really pretty simple.
     
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    Well I have news for you.

    The Bibles New Testament was created by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    At the time when the Roman Empire had adopted Christianity as the Religion of the Empire...only the Roman Empires Christianity existed as there were no other sects.

    The church SELECTED specific Gospels that were placed in the New Testament and many Gospels that were either conflicting to each other or were something that the church decided were not in the best interest of the churches drive for power...were omitted.

    Among the many, many Gospels that were not allowed to be apart of the New Testament were the Gospels of Judas, the Gospels of Mary, the Apocalypse of Peter, Epistle of Barnabas, Infancy Gospel of James, Shepard of Hermas, 1 Clement, Gospel of Thomas, The Didache, Lost Epistle to the Corinthians, Third Letter to the Corinthians, The Lost Gospel or Q Document...and many others.

    There is a great difference in that some Gospels have Jesus teaching that a person can be the SON OR DAUGHTER OF GOD IF THEY FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS...the Gospels in the New Testament are specific to Jesus being the ACTUAL SON OF GOD.

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  22. Stuart Wolfe

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    It seems that the number of extremist Muslims blowing themselves up for the cause outnumbers extremist Jews and Christians lately.
     
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    I would disagree.

    Although I believe that for some people it is necessary for them to have strong religious beliefs be it to keep them in line or for the purpose of giving them comfort as some people have a hard time dealing with ones MORTALITY and the though of an afterlife allows them the ability to go on.

    But as far as using Public Funds to pay for ANYTHING that is religious in nature is wrong and should never be allowed.

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  24. Sherri Munnerlyn

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    But look at the millions Christian Western Nations have or are deliberately killing. Hypocrisy describes ignoring these killing acts.
     
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    Well, now you're moving the goalposts. You sure went from individual extremists to nations in a hurry. What's next, criticism of the United Federation of Planets?
     

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