Do you support reparations for blacks?

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Do you support reparations for blacks?

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    your's appears to be deprived of oxygen
     
  2. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed that American culture has an issue with philosophic or academic discussion
     
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I notice that I don't really have any cares about second string countries complaining about the USA
     
  4. Esau

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    Is that why you give us billions of dollars a year?
     
  5. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am not in charge of that. note I said I DON'T
     
  6. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You always dodge the hard questions, do they hurt your head? And I said a class action lawsuit would be the wrong way to go.

    The lawsuit was your idea.

    I think a better outcome would be to invest in a culture that was denied that after emancipation which put them far behind other Americans. That would be home loans, small business loans, vocational training.....
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the tough question that you ignore is this. why should any white pay any black a dime?
     
  8. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    That is the wrong question. It wouldn't be any white or any black.
    I asked: So you don't agree that the African American culture was damaged and shaped by slavery, then over 100 years of systemic racism, lack of civil rights, segregation, enforced poverty and cultural racism?
    You point out their failings at every chance so you must believe the culture needs to change too. So what do you think is the cause? Is it nurture or nature? If it is nurture then the wider society that caused its dysfunction has an obligation to make amends if it wants to act ethically. There is no evidence it is nature.
     
  9. Turtledude

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    african american culture constantly tries to ignore several of its obvious issues by trying to blame slavery. slavery isn't the cause for massive rates of illegitimate births or blacks killing blacks at massive rates-that's more the Democrat party and the "leaders" of the black community.
     
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    The white American culture constantly tries to claim that slavery is the only thing the black community got held back with, and claim it's that long ago that it's not relevant today on where people could be at social economical speaking.


    While the ugly fact is that them Jim Crow laws got outlawed 20 years after the end of WWII. People like Biden and Trump personally exploited that era of apartheid to social economically get where they are now. And their kids are totally exploiting the opportunities they are getting through their fathers. Nobody in it's freaking right mind is going to explain that Hunter freaking Biden is a self made man, because it's just not true. While all the kids of Trump are employed by his father. And when daddy went to the White House, so did they get positions in the White House. A black family who got massively discriminated by the government and red lined by the banks are just not able to give that to their kids. Kids who are now in their 40's.

    And it is not as if you don't know. You do know.
    Time to put your big boy pants on, and retract that nonsense you posted before.
     
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    Lawsuits are how "reparations" are done in this country. The problem YOU seem to have with that idea is that lawsuits require that those who have been wronged have to show specifically how, and specifically who wronged them so that they can be made whole, and the responsible party penalized. Instead, you want to float the idea that an entire race of people have been wronged by everyone else, just by virtue of being members of that race.

    A governance that seeks to be colorblind makes sure all those things are made available to everyone, equally. Not that they are made available at no cost, but equally. And they have been for decades, and will be going forward.
     
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    one of the most malignant ideas that the left has concocted is the nonsense of group rights or group debts. I reject that bullshit and what I reject even more is giving the government the unconstitutional power to say trying to "remedy" past unfairness by taxing or punishing people who had nothing to do with the unfairness merely due to their membership in a group.
     
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    Lies.
     
  14. Esau

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    White American culture is the root of the problem. Some black folk (the gangbangers) want to emulate this white American culture because they have not been educated in their own history. The educated black folk are the ones who do not emulate white American culture and instead are of a religious nature be they Christian, Muslim or Jew. Those are the ppl of black culture that you should talk about but you don't because you want to paint a particular picture.
     
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    What part of "white culture" comprises shooting down other white people because they're wearing the wrong color hat? What part of white culture includes harassing white kids that want to learn for "acting white"?
    . wrong again. "educated" black folks aren't "acting white" they're "acting successful". Same with other POC; Interestingly first generation immigrant blacks are more successful that native born blacks. Why is that?
     
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    White American culture is guns.

    White American culture is based on european, which is all about the exploitation and oppression of non white cultures.

    Educated black folk happen to be religious. This is the common denominator generally speaking. Why don't white Americans include this demographic when discussing "black culture"? Answer: because the white American is trying to paint a fraudulent picture.

    "The educated black folk are the ones who do not emulate white American culture" was my original quote, don't misrepresent me.
     
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    I see you are not disputing anything I wrote regarding that white Americans today are profiting still from the apartheid rule they installed / black Americans still have a disadvantage due to the apartheid rule.

    You're just annoyed that this is going to cost you.
     
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    I reject the concept of group debts or group rights. were you unable to understand that and 99% of the problems blacks face in the USA are their own makings given blacks who move to the USA are doing just fine. I am ignored at anything that unjustly costs me and do what I can to minimize that. Tell me, why were whites able to benefit from what you claim?
     
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    who sold the original group of blacks into slavery? sure wasn't white folks. stop blaming whites for your problems
     
  21. Turtledude

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    that's so laughably wrong it appears to be from another world.
     
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    You claimed black kids were adopting "white culture" I just listed some of the behaviors some black kids demonstrate and as you to explain how they comprise "white culture".
     
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    The Spanish crown put a bounty on the black Portuguese exiles in Africa. The guinea princes took on this bounty and sold those black Portuguese merchants (Jews) to the Europeans on the gold coast at elmina. They were subsequently shackled inside of European ships and sent into captivity for hundreds of years in America
     
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    so most of the first wave of slaves to the new world were black Jews. Okie dokie
     
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    And Iexplained. The gun culture is a white American thing.
     

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