Do you think the slaves were owed reparations?

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Were those enslaved owed reparations?

  1. Yes, the enslaved were owed reparations, for that enslavement.

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  2. Yes, the enslaved were owed reparations, AND, we as a nation owe their descendents a fair shake.

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  3. No, we didnt owe the enslaved anything for their FORCED ordeal.

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  4. No, we didnt owe the enslaved anything, and their descendents are lucky we dont send them packing.

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  1. fmw

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    Do you think the slaves were owed reparations?

    I don't know. But I think it is moot since they are all dead.
     
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    Why is Sheila Jackson Lee named after 2 Confederate generals?
     
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    How do you propose giving reparations to people who are long dead?
     
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    Who is this we, got a mouse in your pocket? Last time I checked I haven’t enslaved anyone.
     
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    The debt they were owed will never be paid because they are all dead now. And anyone born in America today is lucky IMO.

    I once oversaw the survey of a 40 acre parcel (sadly the mule had passed) wholly owned by the descendants of a slave. I thought it was amazing they kept it through so many generations and not sold any of it - especially considering most of them were dirt poor.
     
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    As an American, I owe a debt to all who built my nation and contributed to its wealth, slaves conspicuous among them since they did so involuntarily.
     
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    What exactly did slaves build, since they were primarily used for agriculture in the south?
    All the infrastructure you use was most likey built in the 50’s.
     
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    They have been dead for many a year now,may they rest in peace.
     
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    I believe every living person who was enslaved deserves reparations. It's only right. Do you have the "list"? Oh and by the way, it's a one day offer, and does not pass to estates.

    Conversely, do you believe their captors and enslavers should share in this punitive compensation? And if so, do you believe we should declare war on countries such as Ghana?


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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know. And you pinpointed a major problem. I wager that this has been debated on this forum many many times in the past.
     
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    If you believe that slavery did not generate wealth in the US, a spot of bother might have been avoided by not engaging in such an unprofitable practice.
     
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    The wealth created by slavery was wiped out by the Civil War and Reconstruction Period that followed.

    What else ya got?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have the benefit of talking to a black man often in this building. I asked him how often he is stopped by the cops for being black while driving?

    He looked at me funny and said he does not have this happen. You are also in California and by your dialogue I am now thinking you are black.

    So I tested this on other blacks. These other blacks were born in India and not of African stock. But they too said cops do not stop them for being black.
     
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    So..........you have "the list"? Post it. :roflol:
     
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    Of course slavery added wealth. But that is not what he was saying. He spoke of infrastructure. I used to boss construction crews after years working in crews. How many black piledrivers do you think were in local 34 pile drivers when I was there? I personally knew about 2 of them. We then had about 1130 members. So what did they build on our jobs?

    How many black crane operators do you think I ever saw in my 9 years in that union? None at all.
     
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    I'd entertain reparations to persons with documentable, bona fide claims, on the caveat that all affirmative action or similar programs would then immediately cease and the next time someone brought up how they're owed reparations they are publicly flogged.
     
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    Were states today destroyed as they were by Abe's troops, who would discuss money to present day blacks? They never were slaves. We keep telling them that but they still show up begging for public money. They need to stop begging.
     
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    So, you get your residuals from slavey? I know I don’t. The slave trade created the top precent of the country, and most of that wealth was wiped out with the destruction of the south.
     
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    "Honest Abe" sure liked his cotton woven undies and that's a fact.
     
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    The entire country benefited from slavery. The enslavement of Africans is what laid the foundation for the great wealth this country has enjoyed.
     
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    I am neither African American nor "European American". African Americans are a minority in USA, thus it is hard for them to get reparations.

    Were decedents of Russian Serfs owed Reparations by Russian Nobles in 1918?

    In peasant-majority Russia, the Nobles were overthrown in 1917. I am proud of my ancestors who played a role in Revolution. As Jews their status was below that of peasants.

    When Jews were expelled from Communist Party leadership in late 1920s, Communist Party became Totalitarian.
     
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    It wasn't the enslaved people's fault that the wealth was lost in the war. They had no control over that.
     
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    Today's blacks in America have benefitted from what their ancestors endured. I bet there aren't 10 current black Americans who wish their ancestors had been left in Africa so present day blacks could live today in Zimbabwe or Nigeria.
     
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    Reparations to African Americans are a theoretical concept.

    Reparations to Russian peasants were taken after the 1917 Revolution. Most buildings in central St. Petersburg belonged to nobles prior to 1918.

    In 1920s, USSR was developing as a Socialist nation. Sadly, USSR became Totalitarian in 1930s. Soviet Incarceration Rate became as high as US Incarceration Rate since 1990s.
     
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    Sorry but I'm not buying this BS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original purveyors of slaves (the wholesalers) have squat to show for this ruse. MAGA! Making Africa Great Again? :roflol:
     
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