Does a woman's right to sex outweigh the right of a fetus?

She chose to risk having a baby (or starting one rather).

She doesn't have the right to stop it if she set those chain of events in motion.

It all goes back to whether she had the right to have sex in the first place. Whether or not it's her body is irrelevant to this.

Surely you recognize that is logical, yes?

 

I can change the analogy if you want.
In order for the man to be brought to her, the woman has to agree to some special terms. She will go to where the fetus tank is and someone else will hold a gun to her head. If the woman does not kill the fetus, she will be shot. The woman will at that point have to kill the fetus to avoid being herself killed.
But of course this entire situation was optional for the woman. She did not have to agree to be placed in such a situation, with a gun to her head. She agreed to so she could have sex.

Or imagine if someone wants a rich woman dead and so they make an agreement with the woman's boyfriend. If the boyfriend accepts the money, an underwater diver will go out and drill a hole in the boat while both of them are out at sea on a boating trip. Then as the boat begins filling with water, the boyfriend will have to throw his girlfriend overboard to reduce weight and prevent the boat from sinking to save his own life. When police question the man, he tells them he had no choice and he had to throw her overboard to save his own life.

Yes, sure, it's true that the boyfriend had to kill his girlfriend in that specific situation to protect himself, but he himself had the option of not making that situation exist in the first place! He shouldn't be able to use saving himself as an excuse.

 

I am too hypothetically busy with my hypothetical wife-to-be , Miss Universe 2022, to even hypothetically answer this.

 

Here is an analogy for you that is actually linked to reality;

Your daughter is driving in her car without a seatbelt and is involved in an accident where only she is injured (she does not hit anyone else). What happens now?
A. Ambulance arrives and tell her to "suck it" because "actions have consequences."
B. She goes to the hospital and has the care she needs.

 

So now a woman is a to be guilty of murderer for having sex too?

Just move to Saudi Arabia already. It is the Conservative Anti-Abortion Utopia on Earth.

No. It is actually what is essential to the argument.

Lmao.

 

Sex is not a bad thing.

 

To think that women are not using abortion as a form of birth control is woefully ignorant.

 

Abortion is birth control

 

What choice is that? Which car to buy ? What to have for dinner?

Sorry, but those questions should go in the What Car to Buy Forum or the What to have for Dinner Forum.

This is the Abortion Forum and the "choice" is whether to have an abortion or continue pregnancy.

 

What choice is that? Which car to buy ? What to have for dinner?

Sorry, but those questions should go in the What Car to Buy Forum or the What to have for Dinner Forum.

This is the Abortion Forum and the "choice" is whether to have an abortion or continue pregnancy.

 

Perhaps it is....... SO ?

 

FreshAir said: ↑
I said, it's the women's body, that is why she gets to decide if she wants to risk life and limb to have a baby

Yes, Anti-Choicers think it's illogical for WOMEN to have the right to their own bodies.......but women do...much to the anguish of Anti-Choicers



please use your brain to think about things a little bit)

 

Kranes56 said: ↑
Your thought experiment relies on “women have abortions because they want to have sex” as it’s premise.

LOL, NO, that is no way near what he posted....goodgawd...

 

The problem is the reasoning to commit murder of a child purposefully created is boiled down to inconvenience.

 

A woman's right to control what happens within her own body does outweigh the rights of a fetus. I have given, over the years, my views on term limits for abortions - but we aren't talking about that here.

 

There is no "murder of a child" in abortion.

But, YES, abortion IS a matter of convenience.

It is INCONVENIENT to have a kid one doesn't want. (especially for the kid)

It is INCONVENIENT to have a kid one can't afford.

It is INCONVENIENT to have a child that will permanently damage your body.

It is INCONVENIENT to suffer through a pregnancy and childbirth.

It is INCONVENIENT to have a kid when pregnancy may lose you your job.

It is INCONVENIENT to have your education disrupted, maybe permanently.

It is INCONVENIENT to have doctor and hospital bills.

It is INCONVENIENT to die.

 

""Does a woman's right to sex outweigh the right of a fetus?"""


A fetus has no rights.

And what TF does a woman's sex life have to do with the right to bodily autonomy ?
Nothing.

There, done and dusted

 

It was a fundamentally flawed hypothetical which only served to demonstrate how little you understand about women who choose abortion.

So you're presenting the position that women (and therefore their male partners) should never have sex unless they're willing to have a child? It's far from an original proposition but wasn't the one that was automatically inferred by your OP.

Few if any women are going to have sex thinking about abortion and most women go to extensive effort to use various birth control measures to avoid pregnancy (assuming they have access to those measures and information about them of course).

 

sure you can, happens all the time, you my not choose it, but others may

no one should be forced to have a child

 

rape is real, forcing a rape victim to have their rapists baby is a crazy, the rape victim should always have the choice

anyone that forces a rape victim to have their rapists baby should go on the sex offender list

 

Yes, she does

 

Maybe someone should think about such consequences before electing to chose the action that puts them down this road?



Yes. There is murder. No matter how many times you want to suggest otherwise I will always disagree on this point. Always.

It's murder.

 

Yeah this is why I refuse to engage with this argument.

It just boils down to sexism and equating women who get abortions with “sexual promiscuity”.

 

sex isn't just about having babies, no one should be forced to have a baby

abortion is not murder

absolutely nothing wrong with having sex for pleasure

 

Some do, some don't...they are free to do as they please just as YOU are...

That's your opinion only, merely, insignificantly