Does the Republican party really think Trump was cheated?

Republicans want to increase effort and require ID.
Democrats decreased effort to coloring in a circle and licking an envelope.

Results are in!

All actions by either party are taken in the interest of gaining/maintaining power.

 

So efforts to attack a duly elected president are bad now?

 

They did in fact change the rules and Biden did in fact win. Are you now taking Trumps position and challenging these facts?

 

Yes.

 

Yeah, I got that. That doesn't favor Democrats. It applies equally to all registered voters. Big fail.

 

So you believe Democrats changed the rules to give Republicans more votes or that Republicans believe requiring ID will give Democrats more votes?

Unreasonable.

 

Wrong. Actions taken by Dems encourage and support voting by voters of both parties. The actions taken by Repubs target Dem demographics in an attempt to suppress their votes.

 

Smfh. Get your head out of conspiracyland. Everyone who requested a mail ballot was given a mail ballot, and in states that mailed them to every registered voter, every registered voter was mailed a ballot. I think Democrats changed the rules to give batboy a heads up. Get real. Maybe Trump voters shouldn't be so lazy they can't even color in a circle.

 

What's that B$ about increasing the effort to vote? Next, maybe people should be required to run a 5 mile race before they are allowed to vote? Maybe that would weed out the slackers, so only the "serious" people vote? Let's see how many votes the GOP would get if that were the case?

What you are really saying is the following: The GOP can only win if turnout is low, i.e. if as many people are prevented from voting as possible. That's the ONLY reason why the GOP continues efforts to make voting as hard as possible. Why should this sort of anti-democratic scheme be allowed to go on?

 

So both sides were allowed to vote by mail. Then what's the issue?

 

I'm a Republican, I do believe Trump should concede and not act like the pathetic whining Democrats did in 2016.

 

Of course it's a self defeating argument. If you can't win when barriers to voting have been removed, it indicates that barriers are the only things keeping you in the race.

What's strikingly ironic is that Originalist thinking on presidential elections was the polar opposite of the populism we see supporting Trump.

 

It is unreasonable to believe that a Dem acted for the benefit of a Rep or vise versa. I do understand why you can only see one side.

Ballots were mailed without being requested. Here in the political opinion section, without the ability to read the minds of all voters, the opinion that parties only act in their interest is a fair one. I realize you are used to discussion between Ds and Rs, and its rare to come across someone who doesn't trust either party.

 

The motives of the parties are irrelevant, no matter how loudly you try to distract from the fact no one party benefitted from mail voting law. Your argument is a big fail. Based on feelings.

 

In Pennsylvania you had to file a written request to get a Mail In Ballot.

 

So you believe Dems acted to get more votes against them? That is not reasonable. Many if not most voters don't bother to research candidates or propositions. While some voters will not let sleet, snow, or hail stop them from voting, others won't vote if more effort than coloring in a circle is required.

 

Is that a crack against Mormons?

 

and now you know why Trump got so much support, individuals with your mentality. People are "suckers" because they have different policy preferences? What kind of thinking is that? Shame on you!

 

I just posted a statement of why so many people KNOW cheating took place. If you could possibly ask yourself about this honestly and answer honestly, you would too.
Here's that statement:

"Most people think of voter fraud as messing with the number of votes deceptively cast or hidden, or inserted or changed. That would be "voter fraud". However, it is not the only fraud that is involved here. When people plot to deceive voters, to mislead them to get them to vote a certain way- an election has been "Rigged", and the result can be the same as ballot fraud. Misinformation to voters is fraud, in the same way that misrepresenting an investment or insurance or the condition of a house or car you are buying is fraud. Fraud occurs when you are intentionally told untruths to affect your decision or when truth is intentionally hidden from you to affect your decision.

That kind of election fraud, "Rigging", is not proven by counting the votes- but by examining the manipulation of information the voters were exposed to. All through this election, the big tech players and the MSM have worked hard to increase the anti-Trump publicity, while simultaneously either downplaying or outright never mentioning information that would negatively reflect on Biden. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube and Google- have all done this with consistent censorship. Now in the aftermath- Google says it will remove any content that implies there was election fraud. Youtube YouTube announced on Wednesday that it will not permit users to upload videos pertaining to fraud allegations stemming from this year's presidential election; and that it has already killed 8,000 channels doing so.

Imagine you take a multiple choice test, but all the answers you see are- rigged to insure you fail. Would you, if you knew that, feel you had been cheated, defrauded? Damned right you would.

What ever you believe will be based in the large part by what you are shown and are told by the media- not what you have personal knowledge of. Thus- perhaps 90% of what you think you know as current reality is controlled by the media.

Today, we are learning some pretty ugly news about links between the Bidens and China. It's not new news- but pre-election, the MSM and big tech kept that news off your screen. Today, we learn Hunter's affairs have been under investigation for a very long time. We know Hunter went to Bejing with Joe in 2013 on a diplomatic mission, and left with a fat deal giving him 10% ownership of a major Chinese investment company connected to the communist government, buying a billion dollars in US Property. We know huge amounts of money have flowed to the Biden family through Joe's connections, and we know from a former Biden business partner that Joe profited from some of them directly- probably many more indirectly. Illegal? We won't know until the investigation says so. But- IF voters knew this prior to the election, polls say millions of votes would have changed. Post-election, the pressure to cloak this no longer matters- it's already served it's purpose.

60 years ago, the media consisted of the press (newspapers, news magazines) and three primary television networks- CBS, NBC and ABC. Such networks used FCC broadcast frequencies and had to have FCC licenses to operate, and there was substantial requirements regulating what they did. Aross all the media- Honest and accuracy was considered the paramount standard you must meet to hold audience and readers. The journalists ethic was sacred; if you failed to respect it; you were not tolerated or respected, and certainly not believed. The only ones who did that were the tabloids sold at the supermarket checkouts, with stories about aliens and the images of Jesus appearing on a potato. There's always been a market for fantasy- but that was of little danger to the nation. The tech age and explosion of social media opened new doors to kinds of abuse never possible or conceivable before; the deception and manipulation of the masses of ordinary, good people.

The deception of millions of people by publishing misinformation with the express purpose of shifting their perception and thereby controlling the outcome of an election IS fraud. Not accident, FRAUD.

You can tell yourself the election was legitimate- and maybe the vote-counting was accurate enough. But those votes are controlled by what you believe, and that will be formed based on the images and stories that have been hammered in to your brains hundreds of times... that you never seriously questioned. You don't have to be stupid for that to happen, and it is not your fault it did- but it means people with malicious agendas have indeed used YOU to perpetrate election fraud.

With the loss of the journalistic ethic, with the rapidly increasing tolerance of losing the freedom of speech and no longer being able to control the abuse of the media- The American people have been had. No matter how you might chose to vote otherwise, you are ENTITLED to truth from these people- and you damn sure didn't get it; nor are you getting ti now. This particular fraud is not over at all, and will never be so long as big tech and media are free to control what you see and tell you what it means.

That is precisely how Kim Jong-Un maintains control of the people of North Korea.

Remember that next time you hear someone say "There was no fraud".

 

I don't believe the Democratic Party has the authority to change the rules. Don't you mean that legislatures (and/or governors?) changed some rules?

The point is that winning elections has consequences, one consequence is the legal authority to pass laws. Rule of law means we're supposed to follow the law, regardless of which party was in power when it passed.

 

Wake up! Trump fans are suckers not because of the policies that they endorse they are suckers because they buy into the BS that Trump feeds them. Trump is the quinsetential con man and he figured out what his target group's hot buttons were.. He never gave two schiests and the 2nd amendment but now he claims to be Mr.guns. He never gave two schiests about whether abortion was legal or not until he wanted the evangelicals to vote for him. He has convince veterans that he gives a Schiest about us but has done Schiest for the VA. Too many Vets fell for his lies. At least Black people know that he has not done more for Blacks than Lincoln. Blacks are not suckers they know he is all BS.
Look how many of his fans believed him that the Corvid 19 virus is a hoax. Too many of his fans believed that the Russian interference is a hoax. Too many of his fans act like the vacuum cleaner- Hoover.
So yes too many of his fans act like suckers. PT was right, one born every minute.

 

As far as I am concerned your entire article is an attemptive fraud.
So you are trying to claim that it is you who are honestin thinking and only you who know what is real. You think that you are immune to BS and lies. Kim Dung Jong is not the only one who tries to control people with lies and propaganda bonbardment. Putin does it, Trump does it at his rallies and Fox Network does it for Trump.

 

Well, you are in the political opinion section and while I am discussing my opinion, you are making claims that require mind reading abilities. I respect your opinion, but thats all it is.

 

Unresponsive. Talking about mail voting, not mind reading. You've stumbled off a cliff.

 

80% of republicans and 30% of democrats.