Egypt military investigation into virginity tests a sham.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...army-investigation-into-virginity-tests-.aspx

Shocking I know. Did these women now think they are magically entitled to rights?

 

Hey theyre arabs, what do you expect...right Mr Relevant?

Or does this prove some thing for you?

Perhaps it means that places such as egypt are so full of thugs that we should focus more on these places and less on other more enlightened places correct?

 

Well can you say honestly women in Arab countries are treated very well?

Its doesnt prove something, more like reinforces...two things women are second class citizens in the Muslim world and also nothings really changed in Egypt.

 

So some Arabs perform crimes too, like some of everyone else. There is nothing shocking about this.

 

Another myopic dollop from ' Relevant '. Women are, in fact, second-class citizens is some parts of the ' arab world '- just as women are second-class citizens in some parts of the white caucasian judeo-christian head-up-arse Western world, ' Relevant '. These downtrodden sex slaves of Western trafficking would be well advised to seek shelter with moral muslims.

 

Did they arrest the mob that sexually assaulted that reporter yet?

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I suppose youd have a point if such actions in the 'caucasian judeo-christian head-up-arse Western world' were sanctioned by the state...but they are not. They are frowned upon and participants ,when caught are prosecuted.

See the difference genius?

 

The military will soon investigate the matter Im sure.

 

I dont think so because he seems to on the loose in Glasgow and in New York now where women protesters were raped in their tents. Busy Egyptian mob eh.

 

Look across the world, almost every second or third world country has similar human rights problems.

The arabs are no different. Its no use to pick on them so.

 

Wow..the same principle could apply to the discrimination that passes for apartheid amongst your antisemitic..ooops antizionist freinds here.

 

Your forgetting that a third or second world nation is somewhat different from a first world one.

Would like us to pick on israel a bit less ? Is that it?

The problem is the israeli / palestine prob is one of high end politics between peoples rather than cultural issues among peoples.

Your basically using the latter to give us all a reason to focus less on the greater problem of israel/ palestine.

Its much like telling us about the awful practices against children in african societies because you think we were focusing too much on the poor whites in South Africa....see the problem there MrR?

 

I could care less if you 'pick on' Israel but for God sakes be honest and try and keep your hypocrisy to a minimum.

 

Its entirely honest and its not hypocritical.


You say that criticism of israel re the pals while ignoring arab nations repression is hypocritical.

The reason youre wrong is because on the one hand were speaking of inter ethnic / inter national conflict and in the other we speak of intra ethnic / national conflict.

You cant refute that. Can you?

 

So what? How does that terminology make any difference?

 

Now youre just splitting hairs,the same principle applies in both scenrios.

When the abuse of Muslim women and Arab mysoginy is brought up its mitigated with the term "long standing traditions". When Israels abuse of Arabs,which I admit freely exists to a degree...this abuse morphed into the hotbutton "apartheid" by the very same folks.

 

Because if for example, we spoke of some conflict between say USA and Russia,say a disagreement about placing nukes in Germany or whatever, and during that discussion someone said but oh wait what about those terrible gulags in Siberia?..

and then someone said, but oh wait, what about those terrible voter suppression and lynchings of black people in the Southern USA

Those objections would be separate from the matter we speak of. Indeed even if those terrible things were fixed both in the USA and Russia, the USA & Russia would still have their conflict about placing nukes in Germany or whatever.

This problem makes the introduction of these objections specious argumentation. Is that clear?

 

Interesting but wrong really.

In the first instance the matter has no relation to a wider ethnic national conflict.

The second instance does indeed,in fact it goes to the very heart of the identity of the state.

 

Military tests into virginity of woman, my god islam and the Arab World are backwards, and we wonder why they produce no noteworthy goods besides oil..

 

No noteworthy goods?

Are they as bad for that or worse than Africans? South Americans?

 

Youre missing the point altogether....the point is Israelis limited human rights violations are exagerrated while Muslim mainstream supression of women and "infidels' is ignored entirely unless of course its acknowledged actually trying to defend the behavior. (which really happens)

Rationale and demographics are irrelevant.

 

Wrong again, ive addressed thevery point youve just made in my last post. Ill repeat it in different terms for you here now;

The israeli case is exagerrated because its an external matter re an occupied population and therefore the dangers of inter national conflict are real.

Muslim mainstream suppression of women is an internal matter. It deserves no more attention than does China's internal politics over a matter re Taiwanese independence. Or Russia's treatment of dissent over a matter of gas pipelines across europe, or Italys treatment of gypsies over a matter of european integration.

These examples hit exactly and refute the very point you are trying to make - I havent missed it ive hit it dead on. But of course please explain how I havent.

 

Can I make it any more simple?

Jew suppression of Arabs-BAD....Arab supression of Arabs OK.

You by mitigating it by trying to correllate it to other countries human rights issues, are proving my point exactly.

Internal matter....lol.

 

The issues is not so much internation matters within nations, but rather international matters involving conflict between nations.

 

Just an intellectually dishonest manner in which to bash Israel.

The fact is Arabs are treated worse by Arabs than Arabs are treated by Israelis. Trying to compartmentalize the abuse with disingenous criteria makes you look petty,biased and quite frankly defeated.