Egypt orders fresh arrest of Brotherhood leaders

http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media...rture-carried-out-morsi-supporters-2013-08-02

 

Here are those Ikhwan 'peaceful' protestors 5 minutes from my house

[video=youtube;dhIztLKSQ88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIztLKSQ88[/video]

 

Police were shot at by Ikhwan with cartouche and some saying also ? live rounds with police injured and police used ONLY tear gas....no guns!

Ikhwan Buses have arrived to take these thugs back to Raba'a

Wahat main road totally blocked and workers and women finishing work in middle of City of October being re routed through the back roads and Mehwar into Giza and thousands now stranded and cannot get back home as no traffic daring to go Wahat Road for fear of Ikhwan with guns.

This dear Moon is the reality as I have been talking to friends now stuck in Giza after they finished work at 8pm and big companies are escorting the women workers home to the East of Cairo and changing their shifts with the men covering the late shifts in many bigger businesses.

I cannot wait till these Ikhwan are rounded up and thrown in Tora!

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Ikhwan buses are heading they say to Military Intelligence now!!!!!

 

One policeman shot with live bullet at Media City confirmed.
Police used ONLY tear gas!

If they try to get into any compound the residents and security will not hesitate to shoot Ikhwan!!!

Sandbags and barricades are up at our security gates checking everyone coming in or out.

It's like the days back in 2011 when all the prisoners were released and residents are armed now to protect themselves and the residents of Raba'a have suffered this for a month now!

 

Ikhwan forcing public into accepting a bloody crack down on them!

They could not do more to provoke a reaction than what they are doing today around Cairo

Local residents of Alf Maskan ( where Ikhwan threatened to open another sit in earlier ) now clashing with Ikhwan thugs.

Counting ticking clock now till army strike down on them and they will have no mercy from the people of Egypt this night!

 

Qatar seems to have dumped Ikhwan and changed foreign policy with new Emir as the natural gas pledge leaves Doha port to Egypt.

Alf Maskan locals have repelled the Ikhwan and destroyed their sit in and tents and unblocked the roads. BRAVO!!! to you!

31 arrested at Media City and 2 Ikhwan trucks with loudspeakers inciting violence have been dragged away by police

 

Abu Sina, wasn't the military ouster of Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood supposed to stabilize Egypt and help its economy recover? That doesn't seem to be working out too well.

 

Residents photo of Ikhwan destruction to their pavements

 

He's from a photo Abu posted regarding captured MB members, and I want him declared PF's mascot. Our goal should be to have as much gravitas as that man has gravity.

Well, give it time. They still haven't gotten rid of the last of Morsi's sycophants yet - and you can't rebuild an economy and tourism overnight.

 

You are correct.

Morsi gave control of most of the Egyptian TV, Radio and Media to the Muslim Brotherhoon.

Extremists from Saudi Arabia, Iran and Yemen were in Egypt.

Iranian Clerics were not in Egypt but the Iranian Qud's Force was there in Great Numbers as it has been my occasional...JOB...to deal with these Scum Bags.

Morsi and the Brotherhood were ASTONISHED when the Egyptian Military REFUSED to be screwed with when Morsi either asked for the Military Leaderships resignation or tried to outright FIRE THEM.

Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood Inner Circle Advisers were DIRECTLY WARNED by the U.S. Military's DIA...Defense Intelligence Agency....that ANY attempts by the Brotherhood to try to assassinate or intimidate High Ranking Officers of the Egyptian Military who refused to step down would result in a DIRECT RESPONSE from the CIA.

3 Day's after Morsi took office and 2 days after Morsi was rejected by a High Ranking Egyptian Military Officer who refused to resign after being asked by Morsi to do so....Muslim Brotherhood operatives picked up the SON of this Military Officer as a private school he was attending as they went there a few hours before school was over and told the teaching staff they were sent to pick up the son of this Officer early because of a Death in the Family.

They did not hurt the kid and brought him home but told the kid to tell his father if he did not resign the next time the KID WOULD NOT EVER MAKE IT HOME.

This kind of action is considered....CROSSING A LINE....in the world I am sometimes part of and it is a known...GOLDEN RULE....that regardless of what side or group an operative or Military Officer might be a part of....YOU DO NOT EVER INVOLVE THE SON, DAUGHTER OR ANY FAMILY MEMBER....in what goes on in the actions and operations of this world.

The CIA DIRECTLY TOLD THE BROTHERHOOD AND MORSI....if the EVER tried to do this again ALL OF THEM...would come home to find their loved ones BODY PARTS separated into groups and placed in baskets in the kitchen along with Home Cooking Utensils that would be used to cut and sever them.

Morsi and the Brotherhood took this warning seriously as the CIA was NOT kidding or bluffing....and as you know Morsi was unable to remove the top Egyptian Military Leadership and replace them with Muslim Brotherhood Members.

AboveAlpha

 

So the Muslim Brotherhood was turning Egypt into their own - Golem?

What WILL some of our MB apologists think of that!

 

Well it did happen again. The 20 yr old son of a high ranking official of ministry of interior was targeted and killed a few days ago when the car in which he and 4 others were in going home was intercepted by a SUV and attacked with gunfire.

 

This warning was specific to any such attempts being exacted upon the children or families of the Egyptian Military Leadership.

I understand that this has happened to others but we can't do everything...Egypt has to handle some things on it's own.

AboveAlpha

 

You know it is a RULE that we all abide by because if one group starts abducting and killing the children or family of another group....then the other group will have to do the same.

Because of this NO ONE DOES THIS!!!

When this happened....the CIA and DIA were LIVID!!!!

You just do not do this!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

You just contradicted yourself

GOLDEN RULE....that regardless of what side or group an operative or Military Officer might be a part of....YOU DO NOT EVER INVOLVE THE SON, DAUGHTER OR ANY FAMILY MEMBER....in what goes on in the actions and operations of this world.

The CIA DIRECTLY TOLD THE BROTHERHOOD AND MORSI....if the EVER tried to do this again ALL OF THEM...would come home to find their loved ones BODY PARTS separated into groups and placed in baskets in the kitchen along with Home Cooking Utensils that would be used to cut and sever them.

The MOI are the police and central security and now includes the border guards and are about 2 and half million with current and reserves. Mubaraks men they are called. Mubarak even took Egypt border guards away from the MOD and put it under MOI control in 2005 or 6 leaving illiterate conscripts to protect our borders when it used to be army!

The Army which are the MOD hate the MOI and have done for decades.

There is no love between MOI and MOD

Egyptian people love the MOD and hate the MOI and always have

In fact when the MOI comes under attack by the people it is the MOD (Army) they call to come and protect them and who surround their buildings to allow them to get out safely.

 

Yes what I posted can be seen as a contradiction in terms but that is what happened and it WORKED....at least for the Egyptian Military.

Barbaric Acts such as the Muslim Brotherhood have or tried to perpetrate are things that are just NOT DONE in the Intelligence World because if one side does it then the other side must respond in kind.

You just DO NOT INVOLVE FAMILY!!!

As far as the MOD and the MOI....the MOI are all the old Mubarak cronies and YES....we did support Mubarak but considering the possible alternatives as Mubarak did keep Egypt secular during a time of several Middle Eastern countries were changing their constitutions into a strict Islamic State and some having Sharia laws.

Still...Mubarak abused his power and Egypt is better off now that he is gone even if some of those former Mubarak Loyalists....the MOI....still exist.


The MOD....which is the members of the Egyptian Military are completely tied with CENTCOM. The United States hedged it's bet's years ago by not only supporting Mubarak but also building a deep and beneficial relationship with members of the Egyptian Military.

Thus when Mubarak...a one time U.S. Backed Egyptian Leader...was thrown out of office....it was handled by another U.S. backed entity....that being the Egyptian Military.

Now Abu Sina....I KNOW THAT YOU ARE AWARE....of just how deep and how intertwined is the relationship between CENTCOM and your Military. The relationship goes beyond just U.S. Military Aid and U.S./Egyptian Joint Military Cooperation and Communication.

The U.S. Military's CETCOM is directly responsible for helping develop and design and construct Egypt's Military as both Defensive Force to protect the country but as well an EGYPTIAN POLITICAL FORCE....that the average Egyptian Citizen feels secure in the knowledge that their Military exists to protect them not only from outside forces and other countries Military's....but as well to protect the Egyptian People from their own ELECTED OFFICIALS.

If it were not for CENTCOM's involvement and very close ties to the Egyptian Military over multiple decades....the Egyptian Military could have very well developed in a different manner....that manner being a self serving corrupt military only dedicated to their own pocketbooks....or even worse....the Iranian Qud's Force could have paid off the High Ranking Members of the Egyptian Military and basically the Iranian's could have BOUGHT AN ISLAMIC REVOLUTION!

AboveAlpha

 

Its amusing coming from a man his own country is in a civil war

You own brothers hate you enough to kill you in the street.....

10 years was your prediction 2 years ago and since then 2 of your biggest Arab countries in the area collaped, but its good you are optimistic.

Keep supplying the good show and dont take crap from MB!!

 

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns met on Monday Khairat el-Shater, a Muslim Brotherhood leader, part of mediation efforts to end the standoff between Egypt's military-backed government and protesters supporting the ousted president Mohamed Morsi, government officials said.

El-Shater is awaiting trial on charges of complicity in the killing of protesters.

Burns was accompanied by the foreign ministers of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates as well as an EU envoy.

If there was EVER a question remaining just how connected and supported the Egyptian Military is to and by CENTCOM...this visit by U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns to what everyone knows as the REAL person in charge that PULLS THE STRINGS ATTACHED TO MORSI....the Muslim Brotherhoods...Khairat el-Shater....well that question has been answered without a doubt now.

Burns is there along with the two foreign ministers to do a...JOB....VERY SIMILAR....like the JOBS I am sent on occasion to do.

Burns will tell Khairat el-Shater that if he PLAYS NICE....and publicly tells the Muslim Brotherhood supporters who are still protesting as well holding up in various Public Areas and Squares to...STAND DOWN AND GO HOME...then perhaps the Egyptian Military will decide to allow various Muslim Brotherhood Members including Morsi and Khairat el-Shater to be allowed to leave Egypt and two U.S. Allies and countries with close ties to CENTCOM...as Qatar hosts the U.S. Central Command's Forward Headquarters in Doha and the U.A.E. is a very close ally to both the U.S. and Egypt....might be destinations for the members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

AboveAlpha

 

IDF cannot sustain a long war. They chickened out in 2008 Gaza and 2006 Lebanon. Reluctant to go into major urban areas. Once air power is ineffective, IDF does not have the courage of Syrian Army.

 

Although I do not take sides in this dispute between the Israeli's and Palestinian's as it is my sometimes...JOB...NOT TO....the idea that the Israeli Defense Force could not if they wanted to invade Gaza or Syria without issue is an INVALID IDEA.

The last time the IDF was fighting Hamas in Gaza or Syria in Lebanon...it did so under GREAT CONSTRAINS that were issued by the Israeli Leadership.

Due to concerns that Overwhelming IDF Military operations would make Israel look like it was slaughtering civilians...the IDF had orders not to use American Made F-16's and F-15's...and ESPECIALLY the American Made F-15E Hudhen or Strike Eagle.

The U.S. State Dept. had made it clear if Israel wanted more F-15E's along with the High Tech. U.S. Avionics and Radars specific for Attack Operations such as the Look Down Shoot Down....Israel was not to be seen using F-15E's against either the Palestinians. Hamas in Lebanon or Syria.

A F-15E Eagle or Hudhen for Israel is the F-15I Thunder and The F-15I uses the APG-70I radar; its terrain mapping capability can be used to locate targets that are otherwise difficult to spot—e.g., missile batteries, tanks and structures—in adverse conditions such as heavy fog or rain. The radar can detect large airliner-sized targets at 150 nautical miles, and fighter-sized targets at 56 nautical miles, although it has a reduced resolution one-third below the standard USAF APG-70.

Had the IDF used the F-15I in number....those battles would have been VERY SHORT LIVED.

It is now possible for a country to just use Highly Advanced U.S. Aircraft to defeat an enemy DECISIVELY as long as the WILL TO USE SUCH WEAPONS AS THEY WERE MEANT TO BE USED EXISTS.

If the IDF had not had constraints placed upon it as since the F-15I's could have been used in NUMBERS and used to target Hamas or Syrian Forces in areas that were NOT ISRAEL thus if there was no concern for the citizens of Gaza or Lebanon....IDF F-15I's and F-16's could have destroyed enemy troop concentrations AT WILL AND UNINTERRUPTED.

As I have stated I will not take sides but the FACTS remain...if the IDF chose to do so....it could EASILY render Gaza or Lebanon WASTE LAND....and Syria does not have the Military capabilities to defeat the IDF currently using conventional weapons.

AboveAlpha

 

Tell yourself what you need, IDF only restraint was the risk of harming civilians, that's the only "victory" the Arabs ever had over Israel, the fact you die in great numbers.

 

Uhuh right. 2006 Lebanon was a victory too?

 

It was ended by the powers not by submission.we certainly didnt lost it.

 

Right. Chickened out then against some serious Hezbollah damage to your tanks. Only can attack Syria when it's being torn apart by civil war. How powerful of you!

 

This is a dumb argument..., like I said tell yourself what you need, fact is your armies stay away from our borders and its not because they are Zionists.