Egyptian helicopter invades Israel's airspace

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  1. Nosferax

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    By firing rockets into Israel?!?


    BTW the world recognise the natioon of Israel. Only a few muzzi islamic country doesn't.
     
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    Why is a Palestinian who is a citizen of Denmark a member of the nation of Palestinians when an Israeli Palestinian isn't? Is an Israeli Palestinian not part of the Palestinian diaspora? what do you mean by the Palestinain nation f you don't mean the Palestinian people who have communities all over the world including Israel?


    Abbas is a member of the PLO and the PLO has certainly not always been non violent. In any case Abbas is only the leader of Palestinians in the West Bank not the Palestinian nation. Abu Sayyaf doesn't represent all members of the nation of Muslim Filipinos and other previously violent organisations representing them have now renounced violence. Shouldn't their nation then be respected by the Philippines in line with your previous statement.
     
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    Israel doesn't accept dual citizenship with citizens of the nation of Palestine. Can't blame Denmark for that.

    The West Bank is a part of the nation of Palestine and thus Abbas is a leader in the nation of Palestine.

    If the Abu Sayyaf is rejected Philippine citizenship, then it might have a better chance of becoming a nation like the nation of Palestine, since they would then be of another nationality.
     
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    One needs more than the hatred of Semites to prove that Abbas fires rockets.

    So, the nations of Palestine and Israel are not recognized by every nation, and yet they still exist regardless of anti-Semitism.
     
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    The nation of Palestine is unique because it has never existed. It was merely a region that was renamed after its existing inhabitants were kicked out in order to muddy the land's Jewish identity and history.

    Palestinians are merely Sunni Muslims with the same cultural background as every other muslim in that region. They could easily be absorbed into a dozen of 57 Muslim countries, but they need to exist in order to pursue the political interests of other muslim countries that view Israel as an incursion into Islamic territory.
     
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    Actually, the nation of Palestine is recognized and accepted by the vast majority of the global population and most of the nations of the world. What makes it unique is that it is unconditionally hated simply because most of its inhabitants are Semites.

    Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity. If any Israelis ever heard of the Holocaust, then they'll understand why it is wrong to advocate ethnic cleansing in the name of anti-Semitism.
     
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    lol so? That doesn't change my argument in the slightest. Palestine was a region under the Ottoman Empire. It never existed as a nation. Its name was derived from the Greeks and intended to reduce the Jewish identity of the land after the Jews were kicked out. Its merely used as a political moniker.



    lol what? Your confusing religion with ethnicity. The people living in the West Bank and Gaza are muslims and the Israeli's are Jewish. Jews are made up of whites, blacks, arabs, hispanic, etc, etc. There's no ethnic cleansing. The problems between muslims and Jews are based primarily on religious differences.

    I think this confusion is caused by muslim propagandists that try to parrallel Apartheid in South Africa with the situation in Israel. Obviously, this type of thinking is making its way into the mainstream as Muslim economic influence into the media grows. I've also noticed this with Haulocaust denial. Muslims political action groups have campaigned to promote Haulocaust denial all over the world since the creation of a Jewish state.
     
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    Your view sounds like the Hamas argument concerning Israel. Did they get that idea from you?

    Religion is irrelevant. The Semites are hated because they are Semites, not because they believe in Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

    As long as Israel continues enforcing a condition of segregation in the nation of Palestine, then a condition of apartheid applies to the situation.

    If so, then it looks like such has found the most popularity in Israel, given that such has encouraged you to advocate the ethnic cleansing of hated Semites.
     
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    Its historical fact.

    The conflict between Israel and the Muslim people in the West Bank and Gaza is primarily a religious one. A semite could be a Jew, Muslim, Christian, etc. There are plenty of Jews living in Israel who are semites.

    Then you don't understand the definition of Apartheid, which is racial segregation, and you've fallen prey to the propaganda of the muslim elite. The issue is about religion and power. The muslims and Jews want control over Israel. Both are applying different tactics. The muslims are using the people in the West Bank and Gaza as political pawns to take back the lands, when the entire issue could be resolved if the other Sunni countries absorbed them back into Jordan(Palestine) or any other country in the area.

    Again, you don't know what your talking about. You should learn the difference between race, religion, and ethnicity. Semite is a Hebrew identity as well as an Arabic identity, and the tension between the two groups is purely religious.
     
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    Then, that explains why Hamas is following the Israeli example.

    If Israelis viewed themselvse as being Semites, then they would be much more tolerant towards their brothers and sisters and they would have accepted the nation of Palestine decades ago.

    I don't subscribe to the Nazi race theory. The only race is the human race. Israel will accept the nation of Palestine once it views the practice of apartheid as being unacceptable.

    Semites just want peace, while Americans and Europeans are forcing them to suffer.

    Christians, Jews and Muslims want peace, while anti-Semites in Europe and America are forcing them to suffer with their racist hatred. You yourself expressed that many Europeans and Americans are so heavily racist against Semites that they still reject the nation of Palestine.
     
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    Don't know what your talking about?


    Because this is about religion. Are you think or something? Semites are Jews and Muslims. Israel, the West bank and Gaza contains semites. There are semites on both sides. Jeez this is not that complicated.

    You just proved in your last post that you don't know what an apartheid is. Do you understand the difference between race and religion?


    Israel is semetic, so what are you talking about?

    No I didn't.

    There is no nation of Palestine and there never was. It was a word made up after the Jews were kicked out of that region by the Greeks, and the region has been hotly contested by Christians and Muslims for generations. The Christians ruled it first and the muslims invaded.
     
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    It's a fact that Israel rejects the nation of Palestine, and Hamas seems to appreciate that example.

    Thus, one needs to accept both nations instead of hating Semites.

    Apartheid : separation, segregation <cultural apartheid> <gender apartheid>
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apartheid

    Race b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/race

    Nazis view race according to one's ability to tan under the sun, but I don't buy into that perspective

    That's why many Americans and Europeans reject the nation of Palestine, hoping that conflict will destroy the Semites.

    You said that you unconditionally reject the nation of Palestine, thus favoring the murder of innocent Semites:

    It is true that many Americans and Europeans hope that conflict will rid the middle east of the hated Semite.
     
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    OK now I've got it, you mean the Palestine state not nation. You're also considering nationality rather than ethnic origin. So what that means is that legitimacy is based on recognition by other states.

    Yes, naturally members of Abu Sayyaf reject Philippine nationality but why do you think this gives them a better chance of being recognised by other states? Btw it isn't always easy to give up nationality. Many Turks here want to give up their Turkish nationality and become Danish but they have to pay a lot of money to the turkish state in order to be able to recind Turkish nationality. Moroccans can't give up their Moroccon nationality.
     
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    The word is 'Muslim'. Nobody could ever accuse you of bigotry could they?
     
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    I don't understand why you are horribly disgusted with the nation of Palestine. It is is recognized and accepted by the vast majority of the global population and most nations. Only Hamas and Likud share your position on the matter.

    Abu Sayyaf is still recognized by the Philippine government as being Philippine citizens. Palestinians in Palestine are recognized by the Israeli goverment as being foreign nationals of another nation. The nation of Palestine thus exists, while Abu Sayyaf is a Likud-wannabe.
     
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    I could called them by what they were known until WW2: Mahomedan, but I prefer the short form "muzzi".

    By their act alone they don't deserve any respect.
     
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    I've changed my mind-you can be accused of bigotry.
     
  18. Nosferax

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    Not much worst than being a muzzi apologist then....
     
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    EXCERPT>>>>
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    It's impossible for me to be a racist when the Palestinians are not even a real people nor when Palestine isn't a nation. I despise and do not condone war and violence UNLESS someone or a nation is defending itself. If attacked anything goes to eliminate the threat. As for Nazi this and Nazi that I do not know if you misrepresent me out of ignorance or spite but I will again attempt to educate you. The Nazis hated the Jewish people. Israel is the Jewish state. I am pro Israel. You are Pro (anything anti Jewish anti Christian anti USA etc). So its evident who is more Nazi like and racist. Oh here is a partial list of your beloved Hamas and Palestinian activities ;

    Palastanian terror; List of victims by date:

    BTW I just listed around 20% of the entries.

    Sept 27, 2000 - Sgt. David Biri, 19, of Jerusalem, was fatally wounded in a bombing near Netzarim in the Gaza Strip.

    Sept 29, 2000 - Border Police Supt. Yosef Tabeja, 27, of Ramle was shot to death by his Palestinian counterpart on a joint patrol near Kalkilya.

    Oct 1, 2000 - Border Police Cpl. Madhat Yusuf, 19, of Beit Jann, died of gunshot wounds sustained in a gun battle with Palestinians at Joseph's Tomb in Nablus.

    Oct 2, 2000 - Wichlav Zalsevsky, 24, of Ashdod, was shot in the head in the village of Masha on the trans-Samaria highway.
    Sgt. Max Hazan, 20, of Dimona, died of gunshot injuries sustained near Beit Sahur. Oct 8, 2000 - The bullet-riddled body of Hillel Lieberman, 36, of Elon Moreh was found at the southern entrance to Nablus. Oct 12, 2000 - First Cpl. Yosef Avrahami and First Sgt. Vadim Norzhich, 33, two reserve IDF soldiers, were lynched by a Palestinian mob at the police building in Ramallah.
    Oct 19, 2000 - Rabbi Binyamin Herling, 64, of Kedumim, was killed when Fatah members and Palestinian security forces opened fire on a group of Israeli men, women, and children on a trip at Mount Ebal near Nablus.
    Oct 28, 2000 - The body of Marik Gavrilov, 25, of Bnei Aysh was found inside his burned-out car, between the village of Bitunia and Ramallah.
    Oct 30, 2000 - Eish-Kodesh Gilmor, 25, of Mevo Modi'in, was shot and killed while on duty as a security guard at the National Insurance Institute's East Jerusalem branch. Another guard was injured.
    Amos Machlouf, 30, of the Gilo neighborhood in Jerusalem, was found murdered in a ravine near Beit Jala.

    Nov 1, 2000 - Lt. David-Hen Cohen, 21, of Karmiel and Sgt. Shlomo Adshina, 20, of Kibbutz Ze'elim were killed in a shooting incident in the Al-Hader area, near Bethlehem. Nov 1, 2000 - Maj. (res.) Amir Zohar, 34, of Jerusalem was killed in the Nahal Elisha settlement in the Jordan Valley while on active reserve duty. Nov 2, 2000 - Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, were killed in a car bomb explosion near the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem. 10 people were injured in the blast. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack. Nov 8, 2000 - Noa Dahan, 25, of Moshav Mivtahim in the south, was shot to death while driving to her job at the Rafah border crossing in Gaza.
    Nov 10, 2000 - Sgt. Shahar Vekret, 20, of Lod was fatally shot by a Palestinian sniper near Rachel's Tomb at the entrance to Bethlehem.
    Nov 11, 2000 - Sgt. 1st Class Avner Shalom, 28, of Eilat, was killed in a shooting attack at the Gush Katif junction in the Gaza Strip.
    Nov 13, 2000 - Sarah Leisha, 42, of Neveh Tzuf was killed by gunfire from a passing car while travelling near Ofra, north of Ramallah.
    Cpl. Elad Wallenstein, 18, of Ashkelon, and Cpl. Amit Zanna, 19, of Netanya were killed by gunfire from a car passing the military bus carrying them near Ofra. Nov 13, 2000 - Gabi Zaghouri, 36, of Netivot was killed by gunfire directed at the truck he was driving near the Kissufim junction in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. Nov 18, 2000 - St.-Sgt. Baruch (Snir) Flum, 21, of Tel-Aviv was shot and killed by a senior Palestinian Preventive Security Service officer who infiltrated the Kfar Darom greenhouses in the Gaza Strip.
    St.-Sgt. Sharon (*)(*)(*)(*)oubi, 21, of Ramle, wounded in the Palestinan shooting attack in Kfar Darom, died of his wounds on Nov 20. Nov 20, 2000 - Miriam Amitai, 35, and Gavriel Biton, 34, both of Kfar Darom, were killed when a roadside bomb exploded alongside a bus carrying children from Kfar Darom to school in Gush Katif. Nine others, including 5 children, were injured.

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    Nov 21, 2000 - Itamar Yefet, 18, of Netzer Hazani died from a gunshot wound to the head by Palestinian sniper fire at the Gush Katif junction.
    Nov 22, 2000 - Shoshana Reis, 21, of Hadera, and Meir Bahrame, 35, of Givat Olga, were killed, and 60 wounded when a powerful car bomb was denotated alongside a passing bus on Hadera's main street, when the area was packed with shoppers and people driving home from work. 60 were wounded in the blast. Nov 23, 2000 - Lt. Edward Matchnik, 21, of Beersheba, was killed in an explosion at the District Coordination Office near Gush Katif in the Gaza Strip. (The joint DCOs were established at the borders of Palestinian-ruled areas under the interim peace accords and were responsible for coordinating security and humanitarian cooperation.) Nov 23, 2000 - Sgt. Samar Hussein, 19, of Hurfeish, was killed when Palestinian snipers opened fire at soldiers patrolling the border fence near the Erez crossing.

    June 25, 2006 - Lt. Hanan Barak, 20, of Arad and Staff-Sgt. Pavel Slutzker, 20, of Dimona were killed when terrorists from the Hamas and Popular Resistance Committees terror organizations infiltrated Israeli territory between the Kerem Shalom and Sufa crossings, by means of a tunnel dug from the Rafah area. Another soldier was abducted, and four others were wounded.

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    Nov 19, 2007 - Ido Zoldan, 29, of Shavei Shomron was killed in a shooting attack near Kedumim in the northern West Bank, when terrorists opened fire from a passing car at around 11:30 pm. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the terror attack as "an act of protest against the Annapolis conference."

    Dec 28, 2007 - Cpl. Ahikam Amihai (20) and Sgt. David Rubin (21), both of Kiryat Arba, were killed by Palestinian terrorists while hiking in the Hebron area. The two Palestinian terrorists turned themselves in to Palestinian General Intelligence in Hebron the same day in order to avoid being apprehended by Israeli security forces.

    Jan 15, 2008 - Carlos Andrés Mosquera Chávez, a 21-year-old volunteer from Quito, Ecuador, was killed by a Palestinian sniper from the Gaza Strip as he was working in the fields of Kibbutz Ein Hashlosha. The Hamas Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades claimed responsibility for the shooting.

    Jan 24, 2008 - Border Guard Lance Corporal Rami Zuari, 20, of Beersheva was shot and killed at a checkpoint at the northern entrance to Shuafat, north of Jerusalem. The Battalions of Struggle and Return, a previously anonymous offshoot of Fatah's Aksa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

    Mar 6, 2008 - Eight students of the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem were killed when a terrorist armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle infiltrated the yeshiva and opened fire in the library where about 80 people were gathered, mostly teenagers. Eleven others were wounded, three critically. The terrorist, a resident of East Jerusalem, was killed by an IDF officer.
    The victims: Segev Peniel Avihail, 15, of Neve Daniel; Neria Cohen, 15, of Jerusalem; Yonatan Yitzhak Eldar, 16, of Shilo; Yehonadav Haim Hirschfeld, 18, of Kokhav Hashahar; Yohai Lif(*)(*)(*)(*)z, 17, of Jerusalem; Doron Meherete, 26, of Ashdod; Avraham David Moses, 16, of Efrat; and Ro'i Roth, 18, of Elkana.

    Apr 9, 2008 - St.-Sgt. Sayef Bisan, 21, of the Druze village of Jat in the western Galilee was killed in an exchange of fire with Palestinian terrorists in an overnight IDF operation against terror infrastructure in the southern Gaza Strip. Two soldiers were wounded.

    Apr 9, 2008 - Oleg Lipson, 37, and Lev Cherniak, 53, both of Beersheba, were killed when Palestinian terrorists, after firing a salvo of mortars at the Nahal Oz area, penetrated the fuel terminal and opened fire on the civilian employees.

    Apr 16, 2008 - Three IDF soldiers - Sgt. Menhash al-Banyat, 20, of the Bedouin community of Kseife in the Negev; Sgt. Matan Ovdati, 19, of Moshav Patish in the western Negev; and Sgt. David Papian, 21, of Tel Aviv - were killed in a confrontation with armed Palestinian gunmen approaching the Gaza security fence south of the Nahal Oz fuel terminal. Three other soldiers were wounded.

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    Aug 22, 2011 - Eliyahu Naim, 79, who sustained serious head injury while running for cover during an Ashkelon rocket attack died at Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusalem on Sept 4, 2011.Sept 23, 2011 - Asher Palmer, 25 and his 1-year-old son, Yonatan, of Kiryat Arba, were killed when their car overturned on Route 60 near Hebron, after being struck by stones.
    Oct 29, 2011 - Moshe Ami, 56, of Ashkelon, was killed when shrapnel from a Grad rocket hit his car.

    Get the idea?


    Rev A
     
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    I quote "I despise and do not condone war and violence UNLESS someone or a nation is defending itself"...in one word .....bollocks!

    Your Nazi state commits genocide, indiscriminate genocide of unarmed men women and children! By the thousand!
    Your Nazi lot murders and steals body parts!
    Your Nazi lot starve the population of Palestine!

    I could go on and on....!
    Lebanon!
    Your Nazi Zionist state drops bombs on men women and children when those that can stand up to them (Hezbollah) who are armed and can defend themselves show them for what they are!

    2000 young boys against 40000 IDF with all the latest and best arms that the American taxpayer can buy and your lot ran with there tails between there legs!

    You full of Sh1T!

    Regards
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