Einstein's error (like most other non-believers

During the time of Moses in the Old Testament there were "Punishments for Disobedience" (people sinning) and those punishments for disobedience from God were direct instructions to Moses to carry out and should not be confused by one thinking God wants us to carry out those punishments today too...no, no, no!!! This is how people can get in serious trouble today by misinterpreting the bible.

The Lord spoke directly to Moses and said, "Give the people of Israel these instructions, which apply both to native Israelites and to the foreigners living in Israel. ---Leviticus 20:2 NLT So those instructions only applied during the time of Moses to native Israelites and to foreigners living in Israel.

It is like a military commander who gives a direct order to a subordinate to carry out. If someone else sees the order it is not for them to carry out. Only the subordinate who received the order has the authority to carry it out. And yes God said thou shalt not kill but when He gave direct instructions to Moses that was the only time where killings were permitted and those killings by the authority of God were justified because they were killings or punishments for disobedience (people sinning) which to God were serious capital offenses during the time of Moses.

Now when our Lord Savior Jesus came on the scene some 1,400 yrs. after Moses, He did say He did not come to abolish the laws handed down by Moses. His primary mission was to save the entire world from sins in that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life in heaven. He also preached to His followers to love everyone including your enemies and so His message was basically of peace and love.

Now getting back to the laws, these laws handed down from Moses to us were the "Ten Commandments" along with "Forbidden Sexual Practices". You have clearly mistaken "Punishments for Disobedience" which was given to Moses and to Moses only with the laws of God.

Oh and let me point out one minor detail that needs correction, during the time of Moses, those people were not referred to as being Christians...how could they, when Jesus came on the scene 1,400 yrs. later?

So once again, anyone who kills believing they are doing God's will are not true devout Christians. True devout Christians follow and obey all of God's written laws which were handed down to us through Moses.

Any further questions or anything you just can't quite seem to understand don't hesitate to ask for clarifications...I'll be more than happy to try to clear things up!

 

Predictably the no true scotsman bit. But see, I said they considered themselves, like you, that they were the righteous and the holy.

And with all the examples of god sending people or angels to kill for him, all the direct killing he supposedly did, the injunction about not letting any witch live, its easy to see how they found justification.

Do you ever spread falsehoods, btw? Those with the spirit of god surely wont.

i bet I can find many examples of you either deliberately or negligently spreading falsehoods. Negligence isnt any better than deliberate and its not easy to say which is which anyway.

 

you mean like stoning the guy picking up sticks? seriously, do you seriously believe a "loving" god would order that man to be stoned to death?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+15:32-36&version=KJV

Numbers 15:32-36 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

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Um, no. There is no such limit stated in Leviticus or any other part of the Bible. It's just something you and the other Christians have made up to make your faith more convenient, because obeying all of those old hardline laws is no fun. It means you're "lukewarm" and will be "spit out" of Jesus's mouth. Repent!

There is no indication that those commandments were valid only during "the time of Moses."

And one of intolerance. The road to heaven is narrow, the road to hell broad.

I'd like your entire post clarified, since it fails to explain how you can pick and choose bits of Exodus and other Old Testament texts to treat as authoritative, apparently according to your own whims. Why should the ten commandments apply while the witch-burning commandment should not?

 

A typical atheist response always in denial of the truth...lol

 

Gosh, I guess you win this one then.

 

This is not a contest we are having but of course it is impossible to mock the Christian faith. There are no inconsistencies or any flaws.

You atheist try to find fault but it is a useless effort on your part.

 

As you have just clearly demonstrated!

 

Maybe you should ask the catholics, lutherans, baptists, JW, and the several denominations. There are so few inconsistencies and flaws they all separated for nothing. Slaps head, DUH.

You seem to have interpreted the bible different that others. Why? The bible is clear and concise and all christians believe it the same as the next.

 

That was the penalty for breaking the Sabbath. They all knew the rules, they all knew the penalty for breaking the rules and so the man who gathered wood on the Sabbath had to be punished.

And a loving God did not condemn anyone to hell who lived prior to Jesus Christ our Lord Savior. This is revealed in Romans 3:23-26 NLT which states,

"For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard. Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when He freed us from the penalty for our sins. For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed His life, shedding His blood.

This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when He held back and did not punish those who sinned in past times, for He was looking ahead and including them in what He would do in this present time, for He Himself is fair and just, and He declares sinners to be right in His sight when they believe in Jesus."

 

I was speaking in regards to people who try to mock the Christian faith, it is impossible for them to do so. All the denominations, although they might differ somewhat as to interpretations of the Scriptures, they all basically agree on a central theme in that God loves us all and that He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to redeem us from the destructive power of sin.

 

The "literal or lie" people (6 day, 6000 yrs ago, noahs ark on ararat) people mock their 'god' themselves, and religion in general far beyond the capacity of those on the sidelines who laugh at the grotesque performance.

 

Invalid statement coming from one of those on the sidelines, who no doubt will always be biased. It's people like you who mock, people of faith do not mock God, that would be blasphemous, that would be a sin.

Everything in the Holy Bible is the truth because the Holy Bible is the Word of God.

 

Speaking of denying truth, where did you get dispensation to pick and choose which pieces of scripture to follow? You avoided answering earlier.

 

All you gotta do is assert "invalid".

And, yes, you do mock such god as there may be with your nonsense.

 

No, I don't mock God, it is you that mock Him. Afterall I believe He exists, while you don't because to you it is nonsense and so who is really doing the mocking?...this is not a trick question...lol

If I say He is caring, loving, fair and just, you are going to respond by saying that is all nonsense and so again who is doing the mocking?...this is not a trick question...lol

 

I like how your quoted text in no way supports the claim you claim it supports.

I also like how you excuse a brutal, primitive rule. Yep, he knew the rule (we presume!). Silly guy. He had it coming.

 

That must be a real bummer to believe what you believe. Is that the reason why so many atheist just live it all up, live for today because tomorrow might never come?

Party up, drink up, take drugs get high, have sexual orgies, engage in homosexuality, do anything your heart desires because there will be no one to be accountable to when you die and so live for today?

No wonder the destructive lifestyle.

 

You can't insult someone who doesn't exist, but you can certainly mock the idea of that character and the claims associated with it. Not that mockery is particularly useful under most circumstances. It can be fun, though.

 

Do you have concrete evidence, proof on the non-existence of Almighty God?...you don't need to answer because I already know the answer it is.....no!...lol

 

Do very many atheists do that? I personally do try to enjoy each day I have. I dream of immortality, too, but I'm not going to believe in lies on account of it.

Larf. No. At least, those things, with the possible exception of sexual orgies, wouldn't bring me much joy. I still consider myself the one-woman type, though. I have too much respect for women to use them for my own pleasure.

If you think atheists are all out partying like that, you really need to open your eyes and look around you. Plenty of (nominally) religious people do that, plenty of atheists don't.

 

Do you have concrete evidence in support of your silly claims? No. Perhaps you've heard the expression that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?

 

Is this bizarre fantasy actually how you view the typical atheist? Or is it just a strawman?

Either way, it's total garbage. Since you're getting focused on proof, feel free to PROVE that the typical atheist indulges in all those things.

 

I have an abundance of evidences and that's the proof I need which is good enough for me. But as far as proving it to others it is not for me to do. One has to do it on their own besides like I have said before on this thread, I am not here to prove the existence of Almighty God, I am just here to express my absolute faith in Almighty God!

 

Do so, do not.

Im not talking about "his" existence or non existence. Im talking about your grotesque misrepresentations. No trick no mock, just an honest observation.

If it occurred to you to spend even 30 seconds on the possibility that I might be right, you might be in risk of a sickening revelation, but one that would be good for you in the long run.

I wish you well, but I suspect your shell of defense is so hard and thick you wont be able to break out.