Einstein's error (like most other non-believers

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  1. taikoo

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    I liked you better as a trilobite.
     
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    Then you don't understand evidence very well, apparently. Evidence is something we can all look at and base judgments upon.

    But you're here to make yourself look silly. You've done well so far.
     
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    Aww, do I hafta?
     
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    You need to look your best at all times.
     
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    Just for you, I will :D
     
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    Way to take a small piece of what I wrote, and then interpret it completely out of context. Doesn't that qualify as bearing false witness?
     
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    I haven't seen you post in the other thread about gays and God, but you must believe gays are loved and saved. Good for you.
     
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    If everything is truth, why do so many denominations differ on what that truth is?
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    I don't pick and choose pieces of scripture to follow that I like. I acknowledge all scripture to be the Word of God and so I believe and accept all the scriptures.

    Breaking any of God's Ten Commandments is a sin, breaking any of God's forbidden sexual practices is a sin.
     
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    so you avoid certain jewelry, clothing, food, ect.. as the bible says you should?
     
  12. Mitt Ryan

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    Such a deeply sad day today in America when the country learned about an evil, wicked young man who decided to go on a horrific, senseless, murderous shooting rampage killing 20 innocent young children and 7 adults which included his mother then in his last murderous act killed himself to end the carnage.

    Evil dealt its ugly hand today! My heart goes out to the families of these innocent victims.
     
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    I understand your plight... There are not enough threads on this forum dedicated to this topic.
     
  14. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    As it says in Job 4:7-9 (CEV) = No truly innocent person has ever died young.
    In my experience, only those who plant seeds of evil harvest trouble, and then they are swept away by the angry breath of God.
     
  15. Mitt Ryan

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    There are good reasons biblically and theologically for believing that God saves all who die who do not reach a stage of moral understanding and accountability. Unlike adults who choose rebellion and reject God, children are incapable of "this kind of conscious rejection of God" and God is gracious to receive them, many have argued.

    The distinction between original sin and actual sins, everyone is guilty of original sin but only persons who know to do right but does not do it are accountable for actual sins.

    Lastly I just want to say it was just an evil, wicked senseless act carried out by a deeply troubled young man. He chose where he wants to spend eternity...poor lost soul!
     
  16. Mitt Ryan

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    Denominations are based on disagreements over the interpretation of Scripture. As believers, there are certain basic doctrines that we must believe, but beyond that there is latitude on how we can serve and worship; it is this latitude that is the only good reason for denominations. This is diversity and not disunity. The first allows us to be individuals in Christ, the latter divides and destroys.
     
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    God loves everybody, every single one of us despite that we are all sinners (some of us are murderers, idolators, liars, thieves, gays etc.) Don't misunderstand what I'm saying here. We sinners are only saved if we repent our sins, ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as our Lord Savior.

    And so when a person does that, eventually they will do away with their old sinful ways. One must realize just because you feel you are saved, it doesn't give you a license to keep on sinning. So murderers, idolators, liars, thieves, gays must stop their old sinful ways. At judgment day God will judge us all.
     
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    It is good to see that people can be people and let them deal with God in their own way. Now try to convince other RW christians the same thing and you will imporve the earth a great deal.
     
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    God still hates Esau. The Bible says so.
     
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    Like me, GOD doesn't hate anyone.....including you.
     
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    But its ok for you to hate?
     
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    How do you come up with this irrational nonsense? Tell us how or why you think he hates anyone.
     
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    That would be irrational, to think the imaginary / nonexistent has emotions.


    How irrational do you have to be to think I was saying "god" hates anyone?

    uh I was talking about, LibHATER, Why is it that while your "god' doesnt hate anyone its ok for you to?
     
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    What are those certain basic doctrines?
    Do most denominations follow those certain basic doctrines the same way?
    If so, can you show us?

    Lets start with a basic. Repentance of sins.
    Explain how a lutheran/protestant repent of their sins and a roman catholic.
     
  25. Mitt Ryan

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    No, God did not hate Esau, you are misinterpreting the Holy Bible which is not surprising let me explain. When studying the Holy Bible, it is critically important to always study the context of a particular Bible verse or passage.

    The Lord's Love for Israel "I have always loved you," says the Lord. But you retort, "Really? How have you loved us?" And the Lord replies, "This is how I showed my love for you: I loved your ancestor Jacob, but I rejected his brother, Esau, and devasted his hill country. I turned Esau's inheritance into a desert for jackals." Malachi 1:2-3 NLT

    Malachi 1:3 is quoted in Romans 9:10-15 NLT "This son was our ancestor Isaac. When he married Rebekah, she gave birth to twins. But before they were born, before they had done anything good or bad, she received a message from God. (This message shows that God chooses people according to His own purposes, He calls people, but not according to their good or bad works.) She was told, "Your older son will serve your younger son. In the words of the Scriptures, "I have loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau. Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! For God said to Moses, "I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose."

    In these instances, the prophet Malachi and the apostle Paul are using the name “Esau” to refer to the Edomites, who were the descendants of Esau. Isaac and Rebekah had two sons, Esau and Jacob. God chose Jacob (whom He later renamed “Israel”) to be the father of His chosen people, the Israelites. God rejected Esau (who was also called “Edom”) and did not choose him to be the father of His chosen people. Esau and his descendants, the Edomites, were in many ways blessed by God (Gen. 33:9)

    So, considering the context, God loving Jacob and rejecting Esau has nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate. It has everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his descendants. God chose Abraham out of all the men in the world. The Bible very well could say, “Abraham I loved, and every other man I hated.” God chose Abraham’s son Isaac instead of Abraham’s son Ishmael. The Bible very well could say, “Isaac I loved, and Ishmael I hated.” Romans chapter 9 makes it abundantly clear that loving Jacob and rejecting Esau was entirely related to which of them God chose. Hundreds of years after Jacob and Esau had died, the Israelites and Edomites became bitter enemies. The Edomites often aided Israel’s enemies in attacks on Israel. Esau’s descendants brought God’s curse upon themselves.

    Gen. 27:29 tells Israel, “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed.”

    So once again, God loves everyone, He doesn't hate anyone, the only thing He hates are sins, sins are a transgression!
     
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