Elon Musk's tweet is cited in a new DOJ lawsuit accusing SpaceX of routine discrimination against re

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    The right has ALWAYS been for legal immigration. The gist of the argument is that in order for a private company to have government contracts that entail advance weapons and technologies. Musk is following the same ITAR rules that NASA is required to follow. The DOJ moving the goal post is what should be the headline. Once again, this administration looking to persecute any political foes. Sounds soooo familiar...
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  2. clovisIII

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    As I said, clearly we are missing some info here, as someone is obviously misrepresenting themselves or the other. I am too tired to play 'armchair immigrant specialist' so I will wait until more info comes out on this specific case other than 1 tweet. Will keep an open mind here as to who is at fault. Regarding the right "ALWAYS" being "for legal immigration": please reread the posts by hockey dad, jcarrliesu, Pred, and Injeun. Remember this story is about LEGAL asylees and refugees. I can't say I am feeling the love there. Massive amounts of misinformation and presumptions: yes. Support? Not really.
     
  3. Pred

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    What does “liking immigrants” have to do with policy making it WRONG to hire citizens? It forget. You’re one of those that call people racist for being against AA. OOOPS.
     
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    Who said it’s wrong to hire citizens?
     
  5. Joe knows

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    Must be scared of a free market option showing up NASA.
     
  6. Kal'Stang

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    That might be the plain version definition of what an asylee is, but legally an asylee is also someone that is seeking asylum, not just someone who has been granted it. Add to the fact that those coming here are often told to claim asylum or refugee status when/if they are caught. And Biden is granting them this status left, right and center. Prior to Biden, and even before Trump, we would only accept a certain amount of refugees. The amount was determined every year and a pretty much rubber stamp process. Since Biden came into office that amount has clearly been ignored.

    LINK: An Overview of U.S. Refugee Law and Policy | American Immigration Council

    And for asylum seekers per the UN agreement that the US is a part of asylum seekers are supposed to request asylum from the first country that the come into that is signatory to that same agreement. Mexico is one of them. Additionally for those seeking asylum it is supposed to be granted only to those who request such at ports of entry, not simply just crossing the border any ole' place. Biden is granting them that status regardless of where they enter the US. Further prior to Biden and again before Trump, most cases for asylum seekers that were adjudicated the majority were denied by the courts.

    In short the refugee and asylum processes are being abused by a Democratic Party Administration in order to curry political favor and garner votes. Pro-illegal groups of course are spearheading this also as they are the ones telling those coming here to claim such status's.

    So, the "right" still has no problem with people coming here the right way. But they're not going to accept abuse of our systems as being the right way either. Do you consider abusing our systems as legitimate ways to conduct legal affairs? For example if Biden drank and drove but because he's President he wasn't prosecuted for a hit and run would you consider that an abuse of our system since sitting presidents are not charged with crimes? (yes, I know, POTUS's don't drive, this is an example)
     
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    I heard about this today and also that Space X was following the exact same hiring practices as NASA.

    Per Mr. Google:
    What are the qualifications to work at NASA?

    What are the requirements to apply? The basic requirements to apply include United States citizenship with master's degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields and a minimum of two years of relevant professional experience or at least 1,000 hours of pilot-in-command time in jet aircraft.
     
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    Space X is not his tesla company or Twitter. Space X fall under “Defense technology” which has to follow much more stricter rules and regulation then every other company. Employee who works for Lockheed Martin or similar company , they go thru vigorous background checks. Elon's Space X is not different.

    Just because CANADA is part of NORAD doesn’t make every Canadian qualified to work for American defense company.

    GOP used to stand for national security, now they are advocating for foreign nationals working for US defense company. WOW .. how far GOP has fallen.
     
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    Did you pay any attention to the post you wrote and what Elon Musk as complaining? Or you just blame Biden because attacking Biden is therapeutical in MAGA world?

    Your post supporting the US policy that defense company like Space X should only hire US citizen / Green card holder. That is what Biden Administration / DOJ is telling Elon Musk to do. But Elon Musk is complaining that Biden Administration not letting him hire non-us citizen from Canada.

    Use the “Basic common sense” you are advocating. When you agree with Biden administration and even post supporting that policy, don’t turn around 180 degree and blame Biden administration you agree with. It’s simple “basic common sense”.
     
  10. Pred

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    When you’re accused of having TOO many of one thing, that thing obviously has something wrong with it, if it needs “fixing”.

    Too many men? Too many citizens? Too many white people? But you NEVER hear, too many women. Too many minorities. Too many LGBT?

    Why? Why can’t a business do what it feels is best. And if having more of one thing what’s wrong with that? Why the equity? Why the quotas? Why the NEED FOR FAILURE just to so feelinghgs aren’t hurt?
     
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    That isn’t what the op says, it says he’s not hiring certain groups, not that he isn’t hiring enough.
     
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    Musk is on the hit list.
     
  13. NMNeil

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    Indeed a great country as Musk is now one of the wealthiest men in the world.
    Born in South Africa and now a US citizen.
    A role model for all African Americans
     

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