Enough already ..open up America !!

I don’t think It will spread like that

 

Just out of curiosity, how do YOU think it will spread?

 

It’s heavy clustered only in several major cities

 

No, seriously, Trump makes everuthing all about Trump. He always has. It's his nature.

The experts are telling us that this is not over. Without proper testing, we should not even be contemplating going back to work. What evidence to the contrary? What has happened in other countries who "opened back up" prematurely?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/european-countries-reopening-coronavirus-intl/index.html

Too soon to tell, but watch this space, and keep in mind that none of those countries has our large population centers.

If the virus is still running rampant, which it is, and we still aren't doing proper testing, which we aren't, then going back to how things were is patently stupid and would likely cost tens of thousands of more lives. Is the economy worth our lives? Not in my opinion. We can rebuild our economy, but we can't resurrect the dead.

 

Good luck with that. Obviously, you've never spent any time in NYC.

 

It's far wider than that.

Stats can be decieving if you aren't careful. Reporting focuses on big numbers of cases for some political boundary. But, many low population areas have just as high percentages of locals being infected. It doesn't make the news, but it's at least as important for anyone living there - maybe more so, because we've been reducing the number of hospitals as wella as the capabilities of hospitals in areas with less population.

Plus, many populated areas have lower count BECAUSE of the policy they are following. Thus, low count doesn't indicate that social separation isn't necessary. It can show how important it is to be maintained.

 

And POOF just like that, the mountains of Civil Rights jurisprudence overreach crafted by Democrats in the 20th century instantly disappeared. You sure you want to go with that as the final answer?

 

It already has. There are many cases in Florida and California. What you are denying is already happening.

 

was Trump's task force wrong? did his administration lead us astray?

 

I live in a republican state, were not in official shutdown, but we are shut down, the people do not want to go out until their sure it's safe

not many going do social gathering type things on May 1st, like going out to eat, seeing a movie, a concert, ect....

 

Before you decide to open up, close down, or take some other measure, could you please push for some sort of a random testing of the population along the lines you do opinion polls. You can't follow up all potential cases and test everyone, but you can come up with a random sample to test and use to truly understand the infection rate, the mortality rate, and other things about it. While this would infringe on the civil liberties of those who draw the lot and will need to submit to a test for the virus and some medical questions, given the many other rights that are being undermined across the board, I would assume having a few thousand people tested based on some random system shouldn't be worse.

Once you do a large enough random sample, and look carefullly and what that random sample tells you, you should be able to draw conclusions with similar degree of confidence (or more) as with political polls.

 

Yeah, their claim is crap. NYC has the highest population density, and the highest reliance on mass transit, and those two factors are deadly in a pandemic. Areas without those issues are ready to start reopening.

‘MURICA: 93-year-old woman using powers of the internet to keep beer stocked during pandemic.

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go ahead, ignore the doctors and scientists and just reopen.

watch what happens

 

It makes zero sense to close down places that have zero effect

 

Such as? What places do you mean?

 

Disaster is always handled locally, with the federal governmnet supplying support - significant support in some cases.

This isn't anything new. And, it has nothing to do with civil rights.

 

1. Wrong, factually incorrect.
2. It is true that it "isn't anything new" just ask "who would win JFK or George Wallace?"
3. That it has nothing to do with civil rights is your irrefutably erroneous legal opinion. No surprise there.

 

In what way does FEMA has ANYTHING to do with civil rights.

And, what the heck do you mean by 2?

 

Well example would be in Michigan, law maintenance/landscapers are prohibited. They don't need to come into contact with anyone else and usually work solo.

 

I really doubt states are staffed such that they can examine each workplace and its policies to make a specific determination.

 

MI Governor did specify it.

Is the answer to just shut everyone down then? NO, it's not working. More and more protests will be happening in the coming weeks.

 

There is clear evidence that these restrictions DO work. And, it's the only serious method of adressing this problem right now, as we don't have adequate treatment, don't have a vaccine, and don't even have adequate testing or PPE for the public.

CA is just one example. It has significant density, but by abiding by the temporary policies that are in place, even dense areas have been able to keep COVID from going crazy.

There are those who believe vaccines don't work, too. So, I expect people will whine about that, too.

 

The rural areas outside NYC or upstate NY

 

Well there was that one rogue man who attempted to go paddle boarding alone, the cops quickly showed up and arrested him.

Murica

 

I would think my area of Arkansas would qualify. My county has had only one case and the county to my north (which is where the town area is) has had 5.