Ex-Transgender Teenager Sues Kaiser Permanente over Double Mastectomy

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  1. AKS

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    How can you be so naive about teens, especially young ones? They don't know a thing about what they don't know. It's why I will never be convinced that sex altering surgery is ever in a childs best interest. Appeals to authority be damned.
     
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    hmmm, are you one of those people who prefer to stay out of others business? 'cause i'm not sure we got it after the first 1000 times you posted it.
     
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    I didn't accuse them of anything. I stated FACTS. They DO encourage this and do it on a DAILY basis!
     
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    the relative explosion of "gender dysphoria" certainly lends credence to the idea that a LOT of this is indeed fad. Spot on.
     
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    So you don't care about circumcision, just female.
     
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    Unlike you, I care about preventing human rights violations and don't call human rights violations "freedom." I'm comfortable with that distinction.
     
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    Those “studies” are suspect. And yes, wait until 18, when that legal ADULT can make a life altering decision. Until then, they can live and act how they choose. Once they’re an adult they can do whatever they want to themselves. Slice their tongue, implant scales, claws, tatoo their entire body and call themselves Slither. It’s the same thing.

    But insurance shouldn’t cover a dime. This is voluntary reconstructive surgery. Just like getting DDD boobs so you can strip on a pole isn’t covered, neither should chopping them off when no cancer is present or eminent.

    Go listen to Jazz about how well her transition is going?
     
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    Do you believe hormone therapy should be available if it is proven safe?

    Why should insurance companies not cover treatment for a mental illness?
    Besides cruelty of course — but that’s the point, isn’t it?
     
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    How many transgendered people are there anyway:
     
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    You are free to express your opinion, but that doesn't make them facts. I ask for specific examples of 'encouragement' - twice - without you being able to do so.
     
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    Many hormone therapies can cause irreversible side effects, especially if given to a minor during puberty. Hormone therapy should not be used on minors for so called "gender affirming care".
     
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    So you people believe people with gender dysphoria should be unable to have any treatment or therapy as recommended by medical professionals, y’all want to force them to dress a specific way, want to force teachers to report them to their parents, want to bar schools from being able to even discuss it with the child or provide resources to them and want to allow other teachers and students to purposely misgender them.

    Cruelty seems to be the only thing y’all are willing to allow.
     
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    It is not cruel to forbid children from harming themselves.
     
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    Oh like suicide?
     
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    You got all that from saying hormone treatment isn't a good idea on minors?

    Do you want to discuss this or do you rather run away with assumptions?
     
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    People, including minors, can dress however they choose. I've never heard of teachers reporting kids for being trans, and there is not such thing as misgendering. . If the person can't handle it, they will have bigger problems in life than being called a certain gender. And I do think most of them will benefit from some psychiatric care.
     
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    Those are positions I have taken as a general republican position and most are being pushed into law. If you do not believe most of them then kudos for you, maybe cruelty isn’t your goal after all
     
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    Psychiatric care is required prior to transitioning
     
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    Transactivists often counsel children to manipulate parents with threats of suicide.
     
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    Which at times involves one meeting with a therapist who writes a letter of recommendation for medically transitioning.
     
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    Over 75% of kids going to these clinics for gender confirming care identifying as the opposite sex, lose those feelings and identity by puberty. Their studies contain no data on kids who identify as the opposite sex who do not receive any gender confirming care, to compare with. For them I suspect its even higher than 75%.
     
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    Sometimes the kids manipulate both the parents and the therapist. Was reading one DE transitioning girls account who as a teen had convinced herself she was transgendered, read up on the topic including the APA's DSM and its definition of "gender dysphoria" and presented herself to the clinic as meeting the APA's criteria in order to receive the medical transition she wanted, admitting after the fact that she didnt really meet all the standards.
     
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    over 75% of the kids identifying as transgendered going to these clinics, simply lose those feelings of being the opposite sex by puberty. THE most effective treatment for kids is waiting for puberty.
     
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    Recent Sweedish study, one of the longest term studies, found that the suicide rate of those who medically transitioned was 13 times that of the population. Transitioning does nothing for suicide rates and likely increases the rate. It should be a crime for medical professionals to claim to patients and parents that medically transitioning reduces suicide chances.
     
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