Ex-Transgender Teenager Sues Kaiser Permanente over Double Mastectomy

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  1. Izzy

    Izzy Well-Known Member

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    Was this what you read?

    'How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?'


    March 5, 2023

    "Many states have enacted or contemplated limits or outright bans on transgender medical treatment, with conservative U.S. lawmakers saying they are worried about young people later regretting irreversible body-altering treatment.

    But just how common is regret? And how many youth change their appearances with hormones or surgery only to later change their minds and detransition?

    "Here’s a look at some of the issues involved."

    cont:
    https://apnews.com/article/transgen...detransition-371e927ec6e7a24cd9c77b5371c6ba2b
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No but thank you for that source. The ones I read also said detransitioning was very rare, less than 3%

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6546862/

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/heal...tion-confirmation-or-sex-reassignment-surgery

    https://tau.amegroups.com/article/view/3748/html
     
  3. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is getting crazy. I say let 7 year old kids buy guns, go drinking and get face tattoos if that’s what makes them happy.

    Pentagon doctors claim 7-year-olds can make decisions to be injected with hormones, puberty suppressants

    The DoD doctors claimed 7-year-olds are capable of 'medical decision-making'

    FIRST ON FOX – Health providers at U.S. military bases, some of whom are involved in treating military-connected minors, blasted the idea of waiting before injecting kids diagnosed with gender dysphoria with puberty blockers and hormones.

    The DoD providers said in the March edition of the American Journal of Public Health that the only pathway for children of military members who present with gender dysphoria symptoms is to immediately move towards "gender-affirming health care, such as puberty suppression and affirming hormones."

    The doctors said that on the basis of "human rights," "youths… have an inherent ability and right to consent to gender-affirming therapy."

    They went so far as to claim 7-year-olds can make their own medical decisions.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/penta...isions-injected-hormones-puberty-suppressants
     
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    YES!!!! and in the meanwhile we develop treatments that are not so irreversible and invasive. I'm not a dr either but it is hard to imagine surgery EVER being a viable solution when we know a large % of "gender dysphoric" teens grow out of it. I couldn't give two sh*ts what your self serving "studies" show.
     
  5. cd8ed

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    You don’t care what peer reviewed medical studies from various organizations, schools and even countries show but you believe you know a “large percentage” of teens (I am guessing you mean ones that have sought surgical treatment for this to be relevant) grow out of it?

    Have a source for this claim or do you just really really believe it and thus it becomes true?
     
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    That does not mention the age of the patients. We are talking about kids that are highly likely to change their way of thinking as they mature. But you know that. f***ing sick.
     
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    I've raised 6 kids, I know they change a LOT between 12 and 18. I dont need a freaking paper.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes, “this is what I experienced so everyone else’s experiences are invalid”. Typical conservative
     
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    Ah and you need an authority to tell you the sea is wet. Typical liberal.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is ironic is you just kind of proved my point.

    A simple explainer:
    http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6097

    It’s almost like there is a ton of nuance and just saying “this is what I believe” when there are vast resources available to take an educated and informed position is just lazy.

    I think it is one reason there is just a divide politically between the elderly who arrive to all conclusions based on their personal beliefs and younger generations who use these vast resources.

    You are free to use your opinion and I will use my sources based on medical and expert research.

    Unfortunately that brings us to an impasse.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most people do not have SIX kids so I would say this person knows a thing or 2 about raising kids. Your comment is doing the same thing you are accusing him of by trying to INVALIDATE his comment and experience
     
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    95% of kids with gender dysphoria grow out of it as they get older. Taking something away from them that they can never get back is a very drastic change. I agree, some medical professionals are leading with their politics and not their brains on this issue. You can treat someone with depression and body dysmorphia without taking off body parts.
     
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    Sorry but that has GOTCHA QUESTION written all over it. I'm pretty sure no democrat is dumb enough to use the terminology of "chopping off kids breasts". They like to put it ALL under the guise of "Gender affirming care for minors".
     
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    Next he's gonna start comparing completely removing sex organs to clipping fingernails...
     
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    Ah yes, an individual raising 6 children in a single household should carry equal weight as numerous studies with thousands of participants.
     
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    But that is NAIL MUTILATION so therefore, per the rules of liberal science, FINGER NAIL CLIPPING = MASECTOMY
     
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    Thousands of children have had their breasts and sex oegy removed? How long have they studied their health outcomes afterwards? I'm willing to bet a much higher than average percentage are depressed. The vast majority of kids with gender dysphoria end up being straight and want their sex organs. And I'm willing to get that most of those who aren't straight are gay or lesbian in which they want functioning sex organs.
     
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    Out of the millions of interactions with the police every year this country got turned on its head over the rare experiences of a few people.
     
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    Government agents unlawfully taking the lives of civilians should turn the country on its head.
     
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    Why just the government? If a life is a life then shouldn’t every unlawful death turn the country on its head? The left only seems to care about unlawful deaths when they pertain to certain people and are committed by certain people. If anyone even dares to mention the murders committed by certain other people they’re hit with the R word.

    Regarding the mutilation of kids, I’ve seen the left go bananas over the suggestion that rapists, especially child racists, get castrated, but they’re pretty eager to do it impressionable kids with emotional problems. Heck, Biden wants the government to help pay for it. Now that’s sick.
     
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    What resource would that be? Every study Ive seen shows "The most recent study in this group, published in 2013, confirms that gender dysphoria does not persist in most children past puberty."
    Do children grow out of gender dysphoria? - Transgender Trend
    Would seem YOU are the one who is saying "this is what I believe"

    Weve known that since 1979 when Paul McHugh shut down the Johns Hopkins sex reassignment clinic because he determined that sex reassignment provided no benefit to the mental health of transgenders and that over 75% of patients identifying as the opposite gender simply lose those feelings without treatment.
     
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    Just have age limits, we do with cars and other things like drinking.
     
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    Yes. Unfortunate that instead they are turned on its head believing the "Government agents" are racist.
     
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    Because one is a government agent. Do you not see the difference?

    Or should we expect more from citizens or thugs than we do from our own police?

    Can you show some examples of this? I have been threatened with a ban because of what I have said should be done to child abusers.

    I haven’t seen any proposals to have the government pay for it?
     

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