Experts: Alcohol More Harmful Than Crack or Heroin

Wow the ignorance.

Has anyone in this thread ever once, ever once had a family member or friend with a heroin addiction? Has anyone ever seen the torment and destruction that drug causes?

My mother is an alcoholic and I've seen the destruction caused by that, but it pales in comparison to the destruction of psychology that I have seen from heroin.

heroin literally destroys your psychology and makes you so sick, that you have no choice but to lie, cheat, steal, or any other activity necessary in order achieve a dose of the drug because you literally could die without it.

Alcohol takes decades to kill, heroin kills within a few years.

I have never seen an alcoholic do the things that heroin addicts do to obtain alcohol. I have never seen an alcoholic murder someone to steal the money to obtain a 40 of malt liquor.

I've never seen Hepatitis B spread among a group of alcoholics within a month. I've seen alcoholics remain socially functional for decades, 20-30 years.. I have never once seen a heroin addict remain socially functional for longer than a year or two.

I cannot advocate to allow someone the "freedom" to engage in locking themselves into the slavery of heroin addiction.

I promise you, from all personal experience that heroin addiction is far far worse than any alcoholism!

 

How about making the overall lives of people better, by LISTENING to their wishes and not CHEATING them out of a decent living. That would take care of a major part of the drug problem in general, IMO.

 

Populism is a vicious, never ending circle. The more you give, the more that is demanded. This is fact established in sociology. Why people keep ignoring it is just beyond me.

No one wants to create a society like Greece, where the people are so used to living a quality of life comparable to French and Germans, despite having the economic infrastructure capable of only providing the qualty of life of a Bosnian, Serb or Croat that they would rather riot and burn (*)(*)(*)(*) down than accept the loss in quality of life in which they are economically capable of producing which is far less than the average French or German.

Human beings are animals and can be trained. We must be trained to accept a lower quality of life sometimes, instead of being trained as whole to always expect increases to our quality of life.

 

All children believe the world started with them. That's why they're so eager to commit the same stupid mistakes over and over again.

 

Well the guy has got the right surname Nutt. Eventually he got fired by the government. The difference with crack and heroin over alcohol is that addiction after a very short spell ensues.

 

One of THE Most asinine and completly ridiculous facts about
alcohol and other drugs.One shot,just one of Heroin can and does
kill an addict.A hot shot { too much % of Heroin }.
Yet one glass of wine is often prescribed by doctors for seniors as
being good for the blood and also aiding in digestion with
a meal.It's been established that 1 or 2 drinks { particularly Red Wine }
is good for general health.Will add to longevity.
Look at all the former big drinkers who abused the substance,Quit and
live well into old age.
If Heroin itself doesn't kill ya,and it surely can,just one hypo full,
then the criminal activity related to getting it,will.
Same with crack.
This should be a no brainer.
This is creeping propaganda.

 

That experiment failed the last time we tried it. The only people that benefited were the Mafia.

See my sig.

 

homsexuality should be illegal b/c of the spread of AIDs through blood transfusions, sex and also pedophelia.

Your rights end at my nose.

 

If it were legal there wouldn't be any criminal activity surrounding its production/distribution/sale and doses would be standardized thus making it much less likely that someone would OD. It's not like you can't drink yourself to death, it just takes more. Also illegal alcohol can contain toxic items http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshine.

 

LOL, and get back to the bootlegging days!! Are you crazy? Prohibiting booze would mean more crime, more jails needed, more police needed, and billions in lost revenue from taxes with about the same number of people drinking.

How about legalize marijuana instead to get some people off booze and onto a SAFER DRUG (as you will note, they list Marijuana UNDER tobacco).

 

I dunno if prohibiting booze would cause more crime. Most of the people who would bootleg booze are already cooking meth. Is it an additional crime if the meth labs add a still to the operation?

That's a rhetorical question. I know every shot of gin or bottle of beer made or sold would be an additional crime.

I guess the Sinaloa Cartel doesn't have enough money yet so we should broaden their product line and their clientèle by banning alcohol.

 

Ever watch Boardwalk Empire? It's a pretty accurate example of what kind of killing, smuggling, and extra law enforcement that went on during the last prohibition.

Beside, you do realize that the majority of our politicians love their booze right? Hence, it will never, ever, happen.

 

I haven't seen Boardwalk Empire but I live in El Paso, Texas so I have a front row seat to the murders and corruption caused by the current prohibition.

I think the U.S. should legalize all drugs, disband the DEA and spend the money on anti-drug marketing, drug abuse education and rehab. Its clear to me that in the "war on drugs" the drugs are winning.

 

C'mon people. It is obvious that alcohol is the most dangerous and damaging. If you want proof just look at Amy Whinehouse, she was addicted to everything and what killed her??? Alcohol poisoning!!!!!!!!!!
Sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm!

But seriously, this study is BS if you ask me. It is an opinion study and means nothing. I can point out several things in there that make no sense. Eamples would be:
Benzodiazepines only 15%--Do you know how many kids today are hooked on these things and dying from them?
Weed 20%--Really? worse than benzos? Worse than the effects of GHB??????
Tobacco and cocaine are almost tied?????
Where are narcotic pain pills?? one of the worst things going right now. I heard the other day that more people die from prescription drugs than coke, weed, heroin, meth, crack, and alcohol all combined. Dont know where I heard it so it might not be true but I can believe it.

 

Um... I hope you're joking. We should go in the opposite direction. End the War on Drugs.

 

LOL

How about you keep your hands off my Pinot Noir?

 

To the highlighted sentence:

yes, Prescription drugs that are obtained illegally. Drugs that are taken under the supervision of competent and ethical physician are not dangerous. That is the entire point.

If we are to legalize medical class drugs such as heroin, then we might as well take away the ability of doctors to prescribe and monitor their patients drug usage and you should be able to walk into Walgreens and get an oxycodone pill for your headache.

Drug use is not prohibited, it is controlled and the front line controllers are our physicians, the people who should be granted with the ability to control and decide who should and who shouldn't be able to use a substance as they are the experts.

 

This argument works for harder drugs, but it really doesn't make much sense out of how marijuana is illegal while nicotine and alcohol aren't....

A lot of the softer illegal drugs are less addictive and less harmful than the legal drugs that are recreational.

 

Anything that is abused is bad - including alcohol. That said, you won't be hooked from one drink of it, and for the most part (there are exceptions) it will not destroy you life from moderate use like crack and heroin (I have seen it happen to many people).

 

I say legalize marijuana and tax it. There will be a black market to avoid taxes, but take the freed up LE resources and go after it hard.

 

Unless the taxes placed on it are really high, most of the black market will disappear.

Just legalize it and tax it reasonably.

 

Fair enough, but I still believe there will be a black market because of any taxes. People always want their cake and want to eat it too.

 

I have never met anyone who said "my life got better when I started drinking"

 

Perhaps, but for example... there's not much of an illegal alcohol industry.

There is a small but significant illegal cigarrette industry, but it only exists in states where they tax the hell out of them.

 

Forgive me for generalizing as well, but does anyone find it odd, other than me of course, that liberals want gubment the heck out of their lives! but want the government to stop people from doing whatever they want...because of "moral" reasons.......based on empty philosophy, fantasy, and pop culture trends?