Evidence Summary: 10 Points 1) The four hijackers purchased tickets under their own names and boarded the plane. One was randomly selected for and passed additional security screening. Ziad Jarrah was a licensed pilot and had recent training on professional large jet flight simulators. United flight 93 was scheduled to depart at 8:00 am, but left 42 minutes late due to airport traffic. Aboard were 33 passengers, 7 crew members, and 4 hijackers. 2) Several passengers and crew called from the plane, spoke with loved ones, described the hijackers' attack, and related their plan to try to retake the plane so that it would not be used as a suicide weapon against a populated area. All but two of these calls were made using the plane's seatback Airfones. 3) The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' attack and apparent murder of the pilots and a flight attendant. Air traffic controllers heard a radio transmission by a man with an Arabic accent, warning of a bomb on board. Passengers reported that one of the hijackers had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him. 4) After learning about the other attacks, passengers and cabin crew attempted to retake the cockpit but were apparently unable to gain entry. The sound of their attempts was recorded on the CVR. The CVR also recorded the hijackers' decision to end the flight, followed by repeated shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest.") until the plane crashed. Families of victims heard the CVR recording. 5) Flight 93 was tracked by radar until it went down. 6) Many people in Pennsylvania saw the Boeing 757, traveling at low altitude and high speed, roll to the right and plummet upside-down, nose first, towards the ground. Many people witnessed the subsequent enormous explosion and fireball. Val McClatchey photographed the mushroom cloud. 7) Hundreds of first responders (mostly volunteer firefighters) and crime scene investigators were quickly on the scene. They saw human remains, aircraft wreckage, personal effects, jet fuel, etc. The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered and had usable data, all of which is consistent with the other evidence. The remains of every victim was positively identified. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller personally collected many remains and made 12 identifications through fingerprints and dental records. Personal effects of most passengers and crew were recovered and returned to their families. 9) Hijacker identification documents and personal effects were recovered, along with the remains of four people identified as the hijackers. 10) Nearly all of the aircraft was recovered by professional investigators and by civilians. The debris was returned to United Airlines after being examined for evidence of explosives use.
ALL of this was in the form of "evidence" that was in the direct control of the "GOV", the fact is no photographs were taken or released that support the claim of first responders having seen human remains ( etc .... ) at Shanksville. The bit about the airliner remains being returned to the airline ( what are they supposed to do with it?) is also highly suspect in that in cases where the authorities had possession of private property as evidence in a criminal matter, even on request from the owner of said property the items where held as evidence for extended periods of time. What purpose did it serve ( other than to make evidence disappear ) to return the aircraft wreckage to the airline? The whole scene was one of making 4 airliners disappear. I cite the space shuttle disaster, and the Pan Am 103 as instances when aircraft were subjected to huge forces upon crashing and still significant sized bits were found to verify that the aircraft was indeed there. In the case of 9/11/2001 we have the magical disappearing aircraft.
the 'gov' gathering the evidence was mostly local agencies....Is your paranoia so profound it extends to accusing local governments of being 'in on it'? first off,the shuttle and pan am 103 were torn apart by atmospheric stresses,NOT flying straight into the ground. And they turned to bits over to the airlines because they OWNED it Lord man,use some sense!
My sentiments exactly........ There are lots of illogical bits about 9/11/2001 and the again incredulity argument that there would have to be too many people in on it to have made it work. oh well ..... there are some interesting anomalies though, the cornier who saw the site at Shanksville, at first said that he saw no bodies at all, and then a bit later he stated that there were human remains at the site. However not even on Rotten dot com do you find pix of any remains(?) why not? where is it documented? The whole exercise on 9/11/2001 was one of making 4 airliners disappear as if by magic.
The coroner was misquoted,this has long been established,if you'd bothered to look And the planes crashed,they didn't 'disappear'
Show us documented, photographic proof of the Challenger parts, including body parts, or your analogy is nonsense.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120522093256-pan-am-103-remains-horizontal-gallery.jpg http://texasforestservice.tamu.edu/uploadedImages/FRP/167.jpg http://www.collectspace.com/images/news-012601a-lg.jpg http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/17/55/75/4120427/3/628x471.jpg In the case of Flight 103 and the space shuttle disasters the aircraft bits were taken to a hanger and laid out to examine what could be learned from the crash, in the case of the alleged FLT11, FLT175, FLT77 & FLT93 none of these aircraft had any sort of critical examination of the bits. and exactly how much of each flight was recovered? and how was that determined?
Where are the pictures of the space shuttle and the documentation to prove what these pictures are? You demand proof, but you supply none for your own claims.
I could say the same about the alleged claim that explosives were looked for but not found at ground zero. oops! The fact is, that pictures of the reconstruction of either one of the shuttle disasters or FLT103 can be found in abundance on the web, that is in contrast to the sort of documentation that can be found about any of the 4 airliners that disappeared on 9/11/2001.
So link us to all the debris found from the Challenger. Show pictures of all of it. Link to documentation of all of the DNA from the astronauts found. This is the same level of proof you are demanding. So ... let's see it from you.
You really don't get it do you...... the fact of there being proof in abundance that both shuttles & FLT103 were reconstructed in a hanger, and as for the wreckage of any of the 4 flights that disappeared on 9/11/2001, there really isn't anything except a few random pix of alleged aircraft bits and no actual inventory of parts to know for certain exactly how much of any one of the alleged hijacked airliners had been recovered. this amounts to VERY poor handling of evidence.
Still waiting for those links with all of this proof you keep talking about. Where are the abundance of pictures of the Challenger? Where is the documentation of DNA and body parts? You made a claim, you demand proof ... let's see yours.
Lets see YOUR proof of there having been tests for explosives at ground zero? .... the average lurker on this forum will have absolutely no trouble in verifying my assertions, however you have totally failed to produce anything that constitutes proof of there having been tests for explosives done at ground zero. therefore its a moot point, there is proof of the fact that in other airline disasters the aircraft was reconstructed in a hanger to inventory the aircraft bits and investigate what happened, the simple answer of "we know what happened, it was a terrorist attack" is NOT ACCEPTABLE! There is NO proof whatsoever that "FLT11" "FLT175" "FLT77" or "FLT93" existed at all!
I already have, multiple times. You refuse to look at the links I provided. Can't back up your claim, Bob? Not even ONE picture of the remains of the Challenger? No documentation of the DNA? Didn't think so.
Your alleged proof links contain NO data whatsoever as to the testing for explosives, if you personally have seen the INFORMATION why can you not supply a proper link to said data?
The same reason you can't provide a link to the things I'm asking of you, Bob. The EXACT same reason.
I'm not providing a link to YOUR specifications, however, I did post links to pix of both Shuttle disasters + FLT103 being sorted out in a hanger, and my point is that no matter how much you look for it, you are not going to find any proper accounting for any of the 4 airliners alleged to have been hijacked on 9/11/2001.
and you personally then are satisfied with the alleged evidence that has been presented to support the idea that hijacked airliners were used as weapons? I leave it to the individuals who may read this forum to decide for themselves.
Speaking for myself,the evidence,which is NOT 'alleged' supports just that...there is NOTHING that supports your views bob.
So what bit of physical evidence shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that any one of the 4 flights existed at all?
a few snap-shots of aircraft bits, does not constitute an accounting for the aircraft, how is it that anybody is to know that enough aircraft bits were accounted for to make certain that the aircraft existed at all, for all anybody knows, the bits on the Pentagon lawn were put there to give the impression that an airliner crashed into the building, but in reality, constitute so little that it is clearly a case of insufficient evidence.
