Female swimmer who tied Lia Thomas speaks out on championship experience

I was a coach, not a gym teacher.

What does weight training have to do this issue? We had mixed weight training classes, but no biological males playing women's sports.

 

I completely agree. The extent to which they've gone with the idea of life to include that of rape is cult like. They may as well be working WITH the rapists like something out of a scary movie.

To the imaginary adversary's delight?

 

Agreed

 

Who's going to stop you from calling a man a woman or a women a man?

How is calling a man a woman or a woman a man a "fantasy?" You must be hearing rules I missed. If you're a guy, say you want to be addressed as "she," I'll call you "she." Why do I care?

 

I think not making this exception brings law itself into disrepute.

Too cryptic.

I don't think there's a great deal of regard for religious dogma. The idea a first-term fetus is a person with right equal to the woman carrying it doesn't have public support.

Religious folks would do well to avoid creating widespread anger by forcing their religious beliefs on others.

 

I doubt most Democratic demographics support any of it.

 

Because words have meanings here in reality and those meanings actually matter.

Why don't we just call a tree the sky?

 

Because God isn't asking me to mumble "sky" when I'm looking at a tree?

 

Do you often hear the voice of God?
That's a pretty poor Dodge by the way...

 

Again I agree with you. Such a circumstance is far too personal to be outsourced for decision.

This is a big topic. To me it is a matter of conscience, not religion. Personally, in righteousness, I don't think that conception can be separated from life or anything in life, anymore than life can be separated from conception, until the grave comes. But to make the womb the grave is macabre on the stage of our existence. It isn't supposed to happen, except in rare circumstances, as in rape or if the life of the Mother is in the balance. But I think that after decades of RvW, Americans have become too promiscuous and abortive to comport to civilized behavior. So I think the pro lifers ought to compromise and support abortion during the first two months or so, as well as in rape, or if the Mothers life is in jeopardy.

 

I think that you're a bit late to the thread!

 

What extremist stuff has Gaetz done?

I'm not sure that it's possible to not lose votes in the middle by pushing BS.

 

I think what I meant by that months old post, is that the vast majority of people on the left DO have a brain, and therefore they too do not understand why men are allowed to compete against women in sports, but they just pretend that it all makes sense so that they don't get accused of being on the other side.

Let me guess: you have not been a coach in the last four years.

Mostly on the left? Are you actually being serious? Name the prominent liberals/democrats who have spoken out against this crap. Can you name ONE? Bill Maher perhaps? Although I'm not sure if he has addressed the sports issue.

After which side wins?

 

I don't have an Imaginary Friend.

You dodged my questions.

 

I don't think laws banning abortion are enforceable. We're already talking about limiting pregnant women to the state where they live to prevent them from traveling to obtain an abortion. I think we would be a lot better off if we ended the "war on drugs," and efforts to grab guns and stop abortions. I'm not suggesting anything goes in these areas, but that we won't have all-out fights if we stop trying to enforce our views on others.

 

The same reason the right doesn't speak out against extreme abortion laws, idiots like Greene, Gaetz and even Trump—they're counting votes. If we weren't so polarized, crazy stuff would be roundly denounced because silence would cost them too many votes in the middle.

I refuse to take sides except where Trump is concerned. I'm opposed to gun-grabbing and major limits on abortion because there is so much opposition to either one that strong measures bring law itself into disrepute. Most of us want to obey the law, but can't abide by small voter blocs running the table.

The same side that also won't put up with outright banning abortion—women. Frankly, it's beyond absurd women should have to compete in most sports against biological males.

 

It's what he says.

That's what's wrong with American politics. I could easily list a dozen things on the left and right that should cost them votes.

 

What extremist stuff has Gaetz said?

 

And when did you retire?

And when will that be?

 

Doesn't the right support extreme abortion laws? Why would they speak out against something which they support? Also, you avoided my below challenge:

Name the prominent liberals/democrats who have spoken out against this crap. Can you name ONE? Bill Maher perhaps? Although I'm not sure if he has addressed the sports issue.

 

Women athletes will force the change, just like women will defeat attempts to ban abortion.

 

Most Republicans oppose extreme abortion laws and most Democrats are opposed to biological males competing against women. They don't speak out because they don't want to lose votes on the fringe of their parties.

How many Republicans have condemned legislation not allowing abortion of raped women?

 

When did you retire?

 

Unlike you, I didn't make a claim that Republicans have condemned something, whereas you made a claim that democrats have condemned men in women's sport. In any event, I asked you first: Name the prominent liberals/democrats who have spoken out against this crap. Can you name ONE?

 

Yes. I'll just pick one—Pennsylvania State Sen. Lisa Boscola.

You miss the point, perhaps overwrought with partisanship?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/09/celebrate-trans-athletes-give-cisgender-women-fair-shot-victory/

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/16/987765777/republicans-and-democrats-largely-oppose-transgender-sports-legislation-poll-sho

We have a case here where Democrats are stuck in an ideological dead end by their unwillingness to tell transgender athletes that biological males competing against biological females is unfair to cisgender women. Republicans are stuck in their own blind alley by their unwillingness to get beyond Donald Trump.

I coached boys and girls high school basketball. There is no way I would ever support girls having to compete against transgender athletes.

That said, I coached a high school golf team (3 boys, 1 cisgender girl) where the girl played from the women's tees. There was no girl's golf competition and it only seemed fair she get a chance to compete. She made the team by scoring better than all but two of the males trying out.

I'd hate to think legislation might have stopped her from being on the team. The whole school knew she was on the team and pulled for her. I was a bit surprised it became a big deal.