Fetal Pain Is A Lie: How Phony Science Took Over The Abortion Debate

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  1. YouLie

    YouLie Well-Known Member

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    That has nothing to do with what I wrote.

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    That isn't what I wrote.
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    Then explain what you really meant because that is what you wrote
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    each year more of the unborn are killed after 20 weeks then people being murdered by a firearms
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    So what?




    If the number of abortions equal the number of women who want an abortion that is all that matters....

    """Oh, look, the number of abortions is more than the number of tubas sold last year! This MEANS something but what?" Nobody knows"

    ""Oh, look, the number of abortions is more than the number of skiers who broke their legs!! ...ad some day I might come up with an explanation of why that matters..."""
     
  5. YouLie

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    You morally judge people for their opposition to abortion, whether you admit it or not. It comes out in all the pro-abortion platitudes, including "women have a right to their own bodies."

    That is not intended as a legal statement. It's not the law. The law is women have a right to privacy. It's a moral declaration. And you morally judge and condemn people who disagree with it by asserting they don't "care" about women. Caring is not a legal obligation. It's a moral obligation. You may say pro-lifers "hate" women. No one is legally obligated not to hate. We're morally obligated not to hate.
     
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    You morally judge people for having abortions and fighting for women's rights.....



    ....see how morals vary from person to person, they are not carved in stone..that's why abortion should remain legal.
     
  7. YouLie

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    I don't mind being called morally judgmental. Those are not bad words to me. It's discernment, the ability to recognize between right and wrong. We all do it, but you don't call it discernment nor judgment. You're afraid of those religions monikers. You should read Sam Harris or others who will educate you that religion doesn't own a monopoly on morals. We're all moral creatures, so blame Evolution or whatever, but don't pretend you don't make moral judgments.
     
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    DUH, that's my point!

    EVERYONE has their own set of "morals" and that's why "morals" are not "rights" nor can "morals" be legislated.
     
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    do you morally judge people that owned slaves even though at the time they did so it was legal?
    do you use laws to gage what is moral and what isn't? if you do then you have set the bar awfully low
     
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    Of course not, it doesn't suit their agenda.

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    Denial is a sad thing to see.
     
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    I don't support the govt practicing medicine. That is for doctors to do. Procedures and such should be determined by doctors and their governing bodies.
     
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    aka Canada
     

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