Finnish FM: Israeli occupation is 'apartheid'

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...nnish-FM-Israeli-occupation-is-apartheid.aspx

well said Mr Finnish FM

another Euro who sees the end days of the zionist regime and it crumbling before our eyes

time is running out blood sucking mosquitos.........time is running out.....

 

THE WHOLE WORLD IS one big mess !

 

For a prime minister he seems to be awfully uninformed or perhaps ignorant of the history of warfare.

If a people are militarily occupied, by that very fact they do not have the same rights as citizens of the occupying nation. Ergo, his contention is simply wrong.

 

For how long does Israel plan on denying these hated Semites equal rights while expanding segregation in their homeland?

 

Until they come to grips with Israel's right to exist as a jewish state in secure defensible borders. They don't need to like it, they need to accept it and move on.

 

about which occupation are you talking? from which country israel took lands?







except the country of crazy asad.

 

That's a retarded justification for the practice of apartheid. Every individual views every nation differently according to the facts on the table and their personal preferences. One can't force hated Semites to view things against their interests, but one can abolish apartheid to gain favorable impressions.

 

What part of land for peace don't you understand? Not land for Qassam rockets or suicide belts in malls and restaurants but land for peace and secure defensible borders as was mandated by UN resolution 242.

 

The nation of Palestine is recognized and accepted by the vast majority of the global population, recognized basically by everyone except for racist haters of Semites. The Israeli government, being a leading hater of Semites, works hard to convince its citizens that the practice of apartheid in other nations is an act of great honor, as long as Semites are forced to suffer.

Thus, one can only wonder for how long into the distant future, Israel will continue to insist that apartheid is the best means of misplaying the Holocaust card.

 

Blaming and condemning hated Semites is not the best means of abolishing apartheid. If Israel would like to oppose racism and act against violence, then it can accept the nation of Palestine like how the rest of the world does so. All that you are doing is showing that extreme Israel's hatred of Semites is uncontrolled and unconditional.

 

You did not answer my question, what part of land for peace don't you understand and why do you hate UN land for peace resolution 242?

 

I do not hate the UN or res. 242 and I accept the nations of Palestine and Israel. It is better to recognize and accept the nations of Palestine and Israel than to honor apartheid while endlessly bombarding hated Semites with racist hostility. At the going rate, Israel is quickly becoming the anti-Semite of the post-Nazi era.

 

Yes you do, paying lip service is not fooling anyone when you actively campaign against the implementation of the UN 'land for peace' resolution 242. Shame on you for hating the UN and instigating the violation of its resolutions by the Palestinians. You are as much an embarrassment to the humanity as you Swiss predecessors who financed Hitler were.

 

Again, you are trying to dictate to hated Semites how they must see things, rather than accepting that you cannot control how hated Semites see things. Semites view matters according to how they view them, not according to how you define that they must view them.

I do not hate the UN nor resolution 242, nor are your assumptions of my "predecessors" relevant for the thread discussion.

Are there thus any other anti-Semite slurs you'd like to contribute to the thread discussion in defense of apartheid?

 

The law is the law, the resolution is the resolution, they can see it anyway they choose and you can keep hating it for as long as you want. It's not surprising either as criminals and their defenders tend to disagree with the law and order and hate them. Nevertheless land for peace is the formula established by the UN, it's the law of the land and the formula is to be followed by all parties involved, criminals and their legal defenders' objections to the rule of law notwithstanding.

 

Again, I do not hate the UN or resolution 242 and the repetition of false claims does not support anti-Semite slurs against forum members.

The bolded text is interesting in the resolution 242 context, considering:

•Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
http://www.economist.com/node/1378595

Aren't the troops supposed to withdraw? Of course, there is also this part of resolution 242:

•For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;

I could list more, if you like, such as....

•Emphasising the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security...

...but you seem to be rather busy blasting hated Semites with anti-Semite slurs in defense of apartheid.

 

Errr dont the Palestinians reject becoming Israeli citizens and if so doesnt that make it complete rubbish what the Finnish FM has said, its the Palestinians who choose not to become Israeli citizens. You cannot have it both ways, they want their own state and deny being a part of Israel so its no wonder they do not have the same rights and privileges of Israeli's.

 

This concept has nothing to do with reality, considering:


Palestinians threaten to adopt one-state solution

The Palestinian Authority has warned that it may abandon its support of the 1993 Oslo Accords, which outlines a two-state solution to the conflict with Israel, and instead pursue the creation of a binational state between the Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea, according to a document drafted by the PA's veteran chief negotiator.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/palestinians-threaten-to-adopt-one-state-solution-1.266295


The problem with Israelis rejecting a two-State solution is that it makes a one-state solution unavoidable. Blaming hated Semites is not the solution. Either one must accept a one- or two-state solution:

A growing number of Palestinians support the establishment of a single state for Jews and Arabs including Israel and the occupied territories, according to a poll released on Wednesday.
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=20659

 

War is coming to the Middle East. That will settle things for awhile.

Question for the Europeans: Why don't the nations of Europe impose economic sanctions on Israel? Do it...see what happens. Have the courage of your convictions.

 

Welcome to reality, Finnish FM. Someone must have slipped him a newspaper.

 

Palestinians in west bank and gaza have something called "paletinian authority" that govern them, if they dont have equel rights in their villages or cities i suggest you contact them,

That's NOT our "homeland", Israelis cant even enter those areas, even the army cant go there BTW, it works only around Jewish settelments that while are few in number, most should be evacuated and withdrawed from - as soon as we reach peace.

 

BULL sh**

The Zionist never intended to live in "peace" with Non-Jewish Palestinians , . All they want is "LEBENSRAUM" LAND - MORE LAND. without borders.





Occupied Palestine ostensibly PA's geographic jurisdiction is limited to less than 20% of the Palestinian territories under Israeli occupation.

. The majority of the West Bank remains under direct Israeli control. It is either occupied by more than 100 Israeli settlements or expropriated by Israeli military edict.

Palestinian territory in the West Bank formerly under the limited control of the PA has been further eroded by the Israeli separation fence, or barrier, on West Bank land. + intersecting Jewish traffic prioriy road network between the illegal Jewish Colonies built on expropriated - STOLEN - Palestinian lands.


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See this : Israel steps up forced evictions of West Bank Palestinians


http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-...d-evictions-west-bank-palestinians-2010-07-01


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Your really have no idea how Israelis intended to live, decpite your super powers,

What is "LEBENSRAUM" ?

 

There was no such people as "Israelis " before 1948. I know what Zionist Leader s - Jewish terrorists gangs , LEHI-IRGUN etc. - wanted . They wanted + succeeded to expel/dispossess/displace non-Jewish Palestinians,

I've listened to Zionists Jewish settlers often enough to know what they want.

"lebensraum" is what the Jews learnt from the Nazis.


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The jews had an orgenized leadership and one big organization that was there standart army, you refer to the margins and say they decide what' what.

You listened to settelrs and i listen to hamas activits, perhaps we should seek what moderates think and try to advance that. moderates are a majority, in Israel at least.